[BCAB] remotely accessing a PC

Andrew Hodgson andrew at hodgsonfamily.org
Mon Apr 18 17:59:08 BST 2011


Hi,

Probably not worth doing this as people are turning more and more to RDP now anyway, and using other technologies such as VDI (virtual desktop infrastructure) which present their own issues.

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: 18 April 2011 16:41
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: Re: [BCAB] remotely accessing a PC

Hi barry.
I have not used Citrix either but as an amateur IT Professional I would be very interested to set one up, even if it means either two physical computers on the same network or one physical and one virtual sharing the network. I have done this for RDP but not for Citrix.
Take care.


Chris Hallsworth

On 18/04/2011 1:16 PM, Barry Toner wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> No, I'm aware of the difference between Window Eye's support for RDP and Window Eyes own feature of Remote Access.  I have never heard of this being setup in a home environment like yusuf is talking about.
>
> With Window Eye's support for RDP you either use Microsoft Terminal Services or a Citrix Server.  Now, a Citrix Server is way out for home-users and I've not seen any documentation of anyone doing MT at home.  If you have done this and could write the steps down and can share it would be fantastic.  It would also be something we could consider using on the BCAB site.
>
> regards,
> Barry.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk [mailto:bcab- 
>> bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:07 PM
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] remotely accessing a PC
>>
>> Hi Barry.
>> Just want to say I think you are getting confused with Window-Eyes 
>> Remote Assistance and Remote Desktop support in Window-Eyes. While 
>> they offer similar features, think of Window-Eyes Remote Assistance 
>> as GW Micro's version of JAWS Tandem via its Tandem Centre, except 
>> the process is the other way round; the person asking for help 
>> requests a meeting, which is a six digit password, while the person 
>> offering help enters their name and the six digit password the person 
>> asking for help retrieved. Once shared the person requesting help 
>> receives a dialogue informing "jo blogs is attempting to connect to 
>> your computer", where Jo Blogs is of course your actual name. Smiles. 
>> Once the connection is allowed the person offering help has complete 
>> control of the remote machine.
>> Remote Desktop on the other hand is where you log on to your own 
>> personal desktop at a (usually isolated) PC. So, for example, Remote 
>> Desktop is ideal for working on your work computer at home via your 
>> home computer or vice versa. Remote Assistance on the other hand is 
>> ideal if you just want to help someone with their computer, and the 
>> person is available to request such help.
>> Hope this all makes sense.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>> Chris Hallsworth
>>
>> On 18/04/2011 12:47 PM, Barry Toner wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yusuf in short as far as I know this isn't possible in the way you
>> are talking about without,
>>>
>>> A.  A significant implimantation on your part.
>>> That being setting up a VPN which will give you access to files and
>> folders but IMHO not your desktop and the ability to run apps.
>>> Or.  Setting up a Server (Like Windows Server 2008 R2), to sit
>> between your two machines.
>>>
>>> B.  Enough eye sight to use the likes of PC Anywhere, Go To My PC 
>>> and
>> Log Me in.
>>>
>>> NB.  I have heard reports that some folks have used Log me In with
>> Window Eyes and no eye sight, but it's not documented and I dont' 
>> know the people personally.  Perhaps someone on GWMICRO's list?
>>>
>>> Window eyes/JAWS do allow remote access, but these are timed 
>>> sessions
>> that require the Screen Reader to be installed on both ends and for 
>> invitations to be sent/accepted.  Unless it's installed on a Server 
>> as I mentioned above.
>>>
>>> Sucks being a blink with this kinda thing, as this is something i've
>> always wanted to do.  now we have Remote Access in Window eyes but 
>> this still requires Window Eyes to be installed on each machine you 
>> want to access and for an invitation to be sent/accepted.
>>>
>>> It's not ideal but if you simply want to access your files and dont
>> 'mind downloading them you could use something like Dropbox which is 
>> limiting in-terms of capacity.  If you're wanting to access say your 
>> media files etc I can certainly help you set up an FTP server.
>>>
>>> I would be thrilled to be corrected on any/all of this.
>>>
>>> REegards,
>>> barry.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk [mailto:bcab- 
>>>> bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:07 PM
>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] remotely accessing a PC
>>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> Window-Eyes also works with Remote Desktop/Terminal Services. Not
>> sure
>>>> about the others. NVDA have plans to support it.
>>>> Take care.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>
>>>> On 18/04/2011 12:02 PM, Tony wrote:
>>>>> Hello Yusuf
>>>>>
>>>>> One way of doing this under Windows is to use Remote Desktop on 
>>>>> the client and Terminal Server on the server. For this the server 
>>>>> needs
>> a
>>>>> fixed IP address, and if you want to change the port used by RDP
>>>> (remote
>>>>> desktop protocol) so as not to leave a hole in security you need 
>>>>> to alter the registry.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could experiment by local lan to see if you can control using
>>>> Remote
>>>>> Desktop - Terminal Server will give you about 60 days after
>>>> installation
>>>>> to activate it by buying licences. It maybe Win7 would allow 
>>>>> single
>>>> user
>>>>> access without installing Terminal server - don't know, never
>> tried.
>>>> I
>>>>> believe you need to install JAWS on both client and server - this
>> was
>>>>> information passed through to me. JAWS is known to work on this
>> setup
>>>> -
>>>>> no info on other software.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony Dart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Yusuf"<yusufaosman at btinternet.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:36 AM To:<bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>>>> Subject: [BCAB] remotely accessing a PC
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, I'm going away at the end of this week and was wondering if
>>>> there
>>>>>> was any accessible software that I could use to remotely access 
>>>>>> my desktop from my laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to be able to remotely control software including a P2P
>>>> client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would a VPN do this and if so what would people recommend in 
>>>>>> terms
>>>> of
>>>>>> a client?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other help would be gratefully accepted.
>>>>>> Yusuf
>>>>>> If you have nothing better to do, why not take a look at my blog 
>>>>>> http://yusufaosman.wordpress.com
>>>>>>
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