[BCAB] JAWS versus Window Eyes

Barry Toner Barry.Toner at clanmil.org.uk
Fri Feb 15 09:34:10 GMT 2013


Hi,

Because with working full time, planning a wedding, studying for another Microsoft cert, doing various volunteering projects I'd need another 3 or 4 hours in the day!

Barry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neela
Sent: 15 February 2013 09:17
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: Re: [BCAB] JAWS versus Window Eyes

Why not take up the challenge then Barry and report back to us.
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From: "Barry Toner" <Barry.Toner at clanmil.org.uk>
To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BCAB] JAWS versus Window Eyes


Hi,

I've used Window Eyes for about 3 years.  I set myself a challenge and 
ditched the shark.  While Window Eyes is very powerful in all honesty I 
ended up ditching it in favour of NVDA because the browse mode in Window 
Eyes got progressively worse.  There are some die hards who have also 
dropped it for this reason.  I also found as the versions went on the claim 
about stability decreased as well.  Some of this can be blamed on third 
party scripts, but my gripe is if GWMicro are hosting these scripts they 
need to have a quality of control in place.  I know there may be loads who 
will say they've never seen this but I seen Window Eyes crash on new 
machines after installation and reboot.  This was in version 7.5 the last I 
saw it.  This could be blame on hardware but honestly?  Imagine giving that 
to a complete novice?  JAWS isn't much better but on Windows machines as an 
IT Technician and Sys Admin I'm using a combination of JAWS and NVDA.

Something I'd love to do.   For an acid test I'd install each screen reader 
on a machine, then set a novice down and set them basic tasks.  I've 
honestly nothing to gain professionally or personally on the outcome.  I'd 
suspect though that the results would be JAWS, NVDA then Window Eyes.  For 
me I haven't touched Supernova since v5 some years back.  It would be 
interesting to see a complete novices views.  Someone who isn't bias in any 
shape or form and someone who hasn't learned to either live, workaround, or 
fix problems with the Screen Reader.

Barry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 13 February 2013 15:49
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] JAWS versus Window Eyes

Hi Phil,

I think what you are saying is no longer accurate.  Window-Eyes has a more
diverse scripting language, because it uses Com Automation, whereas JAWS has
its own proprietary language, as does Supernova, which can in some instances
be limiting.

Also there is the price factor.  Only one price for Window-Eyes, £595.00,
whereas if you have any professional operating system, you end up paying
about 300 quid more for JAWS professional.

Disclaimer here, i am a reseller of Window-Eyes, but there is so much
inaccuracy going on about scripting that I thought I should put the record
straight.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Agent Orange
Sent: 13 February 2013 15:40
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Subject: Re: [BCAB] JAWS versus Window Eyes


Louise,

As much as I would rather not admit it, I believe that, in most professional
contexts, and assuming price is not a primary consideration, Jaws still
usually has greater potential to provide the most comprehensive screen
reading access to Windows applications.  This is particularly so when its
scripting language is utilised.

This is not a criticism of WindowEyes, which is also a good product, and
less expensive than JAWS.

I'm sure others will have their own views.

Kind regards

Phil



-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Louise
Cunningham
Sent: 13 February 2013 15:33
To: bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk
Subject: [BCAB] JAWS versus Window Eyes
Importance: High

Hello List,



Just seeking user opinion. For long term and maximum Windows PC
accessibility, with the capability to hook up a Braille display, would you
favour JAWS or Window Eyes. I've heard excellent reports about both of these
screen readers, but which is best for both home and professional context?
What are the differences? Does one do something that the other can't?



Any advice, suggestions and opinions will be much appreciated.



Thanks.



Best regards,

Louise

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