[BCAB] Signing Forms, A Different View

Ian Macrae ian.macrae at disabilitynow.org.uk
Mon Feb 25 11:21:34 GMT 2013


I have now got to the point where I refuse to sign anything.  My concerns about signing are that my signature is childishly simple to replicate.  And apart from that my grounds are that, as Richard says, there are perfectly acceptable alternatives now.

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On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:17, Richard Godfrey-McKay wrote:

G, Thank God that you don't advise HMRC  then!  Presumably you'd also do
away with internet banking, shopping and lots of other stuff which has made
life so much easier than it would otherwise have been for blind people.

As you no doubt know, as a lawyer, many contracts provide for servicing of
notices electronically , so presumably the legal view is that that kind of
thing is safe enough.

Specifically, what risk do you fear when dealing with the Revenue?  Mostly
it's about paying them etc rather than them paying you, and they do, of
course, also have a secure messaging system.  Before you can log on, you do
have to create a secure username and password, and I suggest that if those
are kept secure, the chance of someone using them is much less than someone
forging a signature undetected.

PS, I promise this is from me - not an imposter - but I suppose you'll have
to use your judgment on that one, as it's not signed!

Richard

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Sent: 25 February 2013 10:42
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Subject: [BCAB] Signing Forms, A Different View

Hi all

I have to say that I'm unconvinced that a procedure which does not involve a
signature is as secure as one that does.

If I were advising the HMRC, I would, with regret, insist on signatures.

The reason is simply that a signature like this is indisputable - at least
where sighted people are concerned, or nearly so - in a way that the fact
that something was returned, even with an accompanying letter, simply is
not.

A signature can be verified by a hand-writing expert, with varying degrees
of accuracy.

For the blind, the issue is obviously different - and perhaps on
registration some sort of voice system could be evolved.

G

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