[BCAB] Internet Connection

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Wed May 1 05:47:35 BST 2013


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On 29 Apr 2013, at 10:48, "Tony" <tony at seeingear.org> wrote:

> Hello
> At work we have an old building with every computer connected to the switch with loose cables up to 50m in length. These are CAT 5 and we have no problems on our Gigabit network.
> Regards
> 
> Tony Dart
> The Seeing Ear
> www.seeingear.org
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Colin Phelan" <Colin_Phelan at pmlgroup.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:12 AM
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
> 
>> Hi Alan, if I use the master socket then 1M if I use the extension
>> socket about 10m
>> Regards
>> Colin
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alan
>> Booth
>> Sent: 29 April 2013 10:10
>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>> 
>> Hi Colin
>> 
>> What is the distance from the BT socket to the hub/modem please?
>> 
>> I've just checked the length of the data line from my BT socket to the
>> modem and it's 10 metres.  Admittedly the distance you mention is 3
>> times that length but I feel confident that a data line of that length
>> would work without any diminution of signal.
>> 
>> There is also the length of the Ethernet cable from the hub/modem to the
>> PC
>> - might this help with the overall distance you wish to cover?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Colin
>> Phelan
>> Sent: 29 April 2013 09:19
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>> 
>> Hi George and Alan,
>> Distance from master BT socket to PC is approx 30 metres I can use an
>> existing BT extension which is in place and would reduce to around 25m
>> but guess I am better using master socket.
>> Thanks for offer George which I would like to take you up on if you can
>> give me your e mail direct.
>> Kind Regards
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of George
>> Bell
>> Sent: 28 April 2013 21:08
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>> 
>> Hi Colin,
>> 
>> What distance is there between router and system?  (Even if for a test
>> you have to put it out and in windows)  I may even be able to loan you a
>> long one for a test.
>> 
>> If you are getting a good performance at the router end, I suggest you
>> use a proper screened Ethernet cable as opposed to a telephone extension
>> cable.
>> Ideally if you can afford it, go for what is known as a CAT 6 cable.
>> 
>> The reason I say "screened" is that long cables can pick up interference
>> from difference sources from passing by mains electrical wiring, to
>> plain radio frequencies.
>> 
>> And CAT 6 cable is designed for Gigabit speeds which, when and if you
>> replace your router, is about the most up to date standard.
>> 
>> George.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Colin
>> Phelan
>> Sent: 28 April 2013 20:33
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>> 
>> Hi Tony, many thanks, just to make sure I am not missing something.
>> For what reason could I not just take router to other end of telephone
>> extension.
>> And hence then would not need another router?
>> Kind Regards
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tony
>> Sent: 28 April 2013 19:50
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>> 
>> Hello
>> Signals do degrade over distance but both Ethernet and telephone cables
>> are designed to carry signals for reasonable distances such as round a
>> factory complex. You should be OK. If you use a telephone extension then
>> you will need another router on the end of it so that might be
>> expensive.
>> 
>> You might consider getting an electrician to quote for running a data
>> cable from the router to your office. Not only might the cost be
>> reasonable but if there turned out to be a problem then that would be
>> the electricians responsibility, not yours.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Tony Dart
>> The Seeing Ear
>> www.seeingear.org
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Colin Phelan" <Colin_Phelan at pmlgroup.com>
>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks Alan and Tony,
>>> Do either Ethernet network extensions or telephone extensions degrade
>>> depending on their length and / or amount of joints I ask because
>>> taking Alan's suggestion which had occurred to me I have the choice of
>> 
>>> running a very long telephone extension or a very long Ethernet
>>> extension and leaving the router where it is.
>>> Thanks
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tony
>>> Sent: 28 April 2013 11:40
>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>>> 
>>> Hello Colin
>>> 
>>> If Alan's idea works for you (and it certainly should do) then you
>>> should take your mains adaptors back to the shop and demand a full
>>> refund as they are unfit for purpose.
>>> 
>>> BTW - you don't need a wi-fi booster as the signal is going down the
>>> telephone line, through a cable into your router, and from there by
>>> cable to the mains and again by cable to your PC. If the signal is
>>> fading in and out it can only be the PC, the router or the connecting
>>> cables. You've swapped out the PC and the problem still exists. If the
>> 
>>> problem is not solved by Alan's suggestion then the next thing is to
>> try
>>> another router as the fact that it is passing wi-fi signals does not
>>> mean the wired connection is erfect.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Tony Dart
>>> The Seeing Ear
>>> www.seeingear.org
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alan Booth" <a.t.booth at btinternet.com>
>>> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Colin
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sure you've tried this already but, inspired by finding a very
>>> long
>>>> old
>>>> extension cable yesterday, try getting a very long cable and just
>>> running
>>>> it
>>>> through the house from the current point to where you want to situate
>>> the
>>>> PC
>>>> and plugging it in.
>>>> 
>>>> Clearly, if this works you can arrange for a more permanent solution
>>> to be
>>>> put in place.
>>>> 
>>>> Good Luck
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Colin
>> 
>>>> Phelan
>>>> Sent: 27 April 2013 19:05
>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>> Subject: [BCAB] Internet Connection
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Further to the assistance that Tony Dart and others gave me a week or
>>> so
>>>> ago
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I can now confirm that my 'power plug' adaptors' are not doing the
>> job
>>> as
>>>> connection is fading in and out - I have plugged another machine in
>>> and
>>>> same
>>>> issue.
>>>> 
>>>> So the answer is either take my house apart and try and get a
>>> telephone
>>>> extension run through
>>>> 
>>>> Or boost my wi fi even though lap tops work perfectly on current wi
>> fi
>>> in
>>>> same location.
>>>> 
>>>> PC in question is again a bit in and out on the current wi fi.
>>>> 
>>>> Do wi fi boosters do a good job or are they a bit hit and miss also.
>>>> 
>>>> Reccomendation of decent affordable booster also welcomed
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Colin
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