[BCAB] a bit OT, but???

M Lakhani muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com
Fri May 17 12:01:34 BST 2013


There's a number of apps on iOS & android- the popular ones being Nike & fit band. Nike on iOS is fairly accessible & the paraphernalia for it isn't so pricy in the grand scheme of things! I'll try & write a tutorial for it soon! 
HTH
Muzz

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 May 2013, at 10:10, "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com> wrote:

> I'll dig out the TTS description of exercises and put them   on sendspace.
> I realised  as soon as I had sent the mail that I had typed a bit of
> complete nonsense regarding using the Trekker Breeze.
> Whilst the way I use the Trekker to measure distance and speed walked is
> still valid my speculation that this might be adapted for Treadmill work is
> completely absurd. Of course as far as the Trekker is concerned whilst you
> are on the Treadmill you are stationary. I hit send and then hit my forehead
> at my stupidity.
> You could however use one of the rocker based Talking  Pedometers to achieve
> a better result on a treadmill I guess.  I used to use one of these a few
> years ago.
> 
> David Griffith
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of M Lakhani
> Sent: 17 May 2013 03:37
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
> 
> Excellent piece of work here David !! :) Yes I'd be interested to take a
> peak at what d speech tts produced!
> 
> I think you should also take a look at this:
> 
> http://www.beneficialdesigns.com
> 
> They're a research company who specialise in accessible fitness , including
> VI fitness .
> This link below is the current state of play in the uk & may be of help in
> locating facilities & equipment :
> http://www.efds.co.uk/inclusive_fitness
> 
> Unfortunately the British system doesn't exactly specify much in the way of
> accessibility for blind & partially sighted people even though it talks a
> great deal about wheelchair access & mobility impairments! 
> Perhaps this is one for BCAB & RNIB to address swiftly due to its endless
> benefits on nhs budgets as well as better safety compliance in public
> places!
> HTH
> Muzz    
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 16 May 2013, at 23:14, "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have never felt the need to have either a treadmill or cross trainer 
>> because of the space they take up and the inherent poor accessibility 
>> features.
>> I use them in gyms with sighted feedback but to my mind there are much 
>> better alternatives from a home setting.
>> I manage lots of accessible exercise from home.
>> Technology , of the readily available kind, provides feedback and 
>> guidance on progress on many of these routines.
>> I use a combination of
>> 1. Free weights of various kinds.
>> (I use a bathroom talking weighing scales to tell the size of the 
>> weights if I cannot judged their weight by feel.) You can monitor 
>> progress that way , I tend to increase repetitions rather than weight.
>> 2. A sit up bench.
>> (All you have to do is count the number of your sit ups and how long 
>> it takes you. In practice I tend to time my whole exercise routines 
>> rather than individual segments.
>> 3. My stairs.
>> Before any session I use brisk walking up and down the stairs as a warm
> up.
>> In theory I could use a timer or my talking watch but I have not bothered.
>> Again I just count the number of flights I climb). This gives a good 
>> cardio vascular workout and approximates to the stepper machines sometimes
> sold.
>> Typically I warm up with 4 set of 4 climbs up and down the stairs 
>> intermingled with exercise band routines (See below).
>> 4. Exercise bands
>> I bought a medium and  heavy duty exercise bands from Amazon.
>> Although the documentation was inaccessibly printed  and did not make 
>> sense when scanned I simply trawled the web for the many descriptions 
>> of different exercises you can do with banns.
>> I then used DSpeech TTS to convert the copied text from  these web 
>> pages into MP3s. You could also use Kurzweil or ?Text Aloud to do this 
>> but DSpeech is easy and free.
>> I then labelled these exercise descriptions appropriately and 
>> assembled them into different exercise routines.
>> I probably still have these somewhere if anybody needs them.
>> Finally I copied them into onto an mp3 player so I could have a 
>> virtual audio described exercise routine to follow. You listen to the 
>> instructions, pause your mp3 player and then do the exercise and then 
>> play the next set of instructions.
>> I used similar   techniques to create exercise routines for my free weight
>> exercises, power pump and bullworker routines.
>> This prevents you getting bored with any one particular device.
>> Additionally whilst I have never bothered to measure progress with the 
>> bullworker this is easily achieved if you wanted to do this.  The 
>> bullworker has a movable plastic gauge which register the amount of 
>> push or pull you exert on the device. It would be a simple process for 
>> one off sighted assistance to add tactile markings or bumps so that 
>> you could feel where the gauge has moved to and therefore monitor your 
>> progress . You could use an accessible Dictaphone to breathlessly pant 
>> out and record your readings if you needed to .
>> 
>> 5. At the local pool  I go swimming and count lengths whilst swimming 
>> alongside a rope. I check the time with my talking watch before and 
>> after the session.
>> 6. Finally I use my Trekker Breeze  to record the amount of distance I 
>> walk when doing walking exercise  outside , if necessary I identify a 
>> quiet circuit with no roads to cross and do laps around this, walking 
>> and measuring my progress with the Trekker Breeze which will tell me  
>> not only how far I have walked but for how long and how fast I am 
>> walking. If I find a really quite safe circuit with no roads  I shore 
>> hug with my cane and listen to music or an audio book whilst I am doing
> this.
>> In theory I guess you could do the same thing with a trekker breeze on 
>> a treadmill but given I have a street outside my house I have never 
>> felt the need for a treadmill. If I was still a regular runner this 
>> might be different.
>> Of cores if you wanted you can record all this on a spreadsheet to 
>> record progress.
>> I used a spreadsheet allied to my talking blood pressure machine to 
>> record readings.
>> You can also use talking bathroom scales with a spreadsheet if you 
>> want to record weight loss.
>> As I have asthma  I also sometime record Peak Flow readings. These are 
>> easily available if you get someone to apply tactile markings along 
>> the gauge. I use a long bigger mark at 400 to prevent me having to 
>> count up from 200 all the time. I find a marking every 50 is 
>> sufficient. If I am well I can get nearly 600 but if I am down in the 
>> 300s  I know I need to see a Doctor so this is a good monitoring device.
>> Finally a bit of research on the web should give an indication of the 
>> typical calorie burn for your weight for any particular exercise. You 
>> can probably get some idea from the information on calorie burn for 
>> each exercise simply by using a talking watch.
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Denise 
>> Knott
>> Sent: 16 May 2013 20:20
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
>> 
>> Yes I would be very interested in an accessible exercise equipment.  I 
>> have a tread mill and a recumbent cycle, with all sorts of digitablere 
>> programmes, non of which I could use as I am totally blind so used to 
>> do a gentle ten minutes every morning.  At the moment I am not allowed 
>> to exercise as I broke my hip in October and I was told not to use the 
>> machines but I am not sure how long the restrictions were for.  I have 
>> thought and tried to resource at the time if there were any talking 
>> machines for our use.  A blind friend had an exercise bicycle adapted 
>> by his Sister who was a computer expert and got friends to adapt his 
>> bike but then I heard it had broken down so back to the drawing board!!
>> 
>> Denise
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: M Lakhani
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:41 PM
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
>> 
>> Ok I'll bring it back to the topic - sorry guys :) In my experience as 
>> a qualified fitness trainer , I can easily say the following :
>> A lot of automatic machines with some sort of control screens are not 
>> accessible to people with no or limited vision!
>> The problem with machines like treadmills based on the above is 
>> compounded by safety issues& have resulted in horrible accidents when 
>> I worked for a gym!
>> A lot of new machines are increasingly incorporating touch screens 
>> with no zoom or tts - they could however  play audio & video from TV or
> online.
>> Even a lot of machines with old school physical buttons with bump ons 
>> or tactimark aids have no tts or zoom, so no chance of measuring 
>> performance for the purposes of either following a training program , 
>> managing a medical condition, injury recovery, or even competition based
> training !
>> In order to accomplish the above tasks, one would have to rely on 
>> sighted help!
>> I've not even mentioned servicing or fixing here!
>> 
>> Therefore , in line with the BCAB rules, my question is this:
>> Has anyone encountered a machine (type & brand) that a blind person 
>> can use without any sighted assistance without having to use their 
>> manual counterparts?
>> 
>> Please contribute && keep it relevant :)
>> 
>> HTH
>> Muzz
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 15 May 2013, at 11:55, "Jackie Cairns" 
>> <jackie.cairnsplace at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tom
>>> 
>>> I am unfortunately very limited to what I can use physically.  Even 
>>> the treadmill is hard going, and it has become a chore rather than a 
>>> labour of love nowadays.  But it is accessible, cheaper than going to 
>>> the gym with all that health and safety involves, and rain free!!
>>> 
>>> Keep chugging! (smile).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>> tom.reid21 at virginmedia.com
>>> Sent: 15 May 2013 11:40
>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
>>> 
>>> Hi Jackie,
>>> 
>>> Have you looked at a spin bike. Apart from stuff with your arms, it's 
>>> pretty near the cross trainer.  I've got the proverbial male shed so 
>>> stuff in there, but, the bike's pretty easyy to set up and not too 
>>> bad for room.
>>> 
>>> In fact, have been inspired. Heading for the shed now.
>>> 
>>> Best, tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> Sent: 15 May 2013 11:21
>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
>>> 
>>> Hi Tom
>>> 
>>> Absolutely right.  You also need to consider the amount of room you 
>>> have available.  Chances are that the more hassle you encounter to 
>>> set it up ready for use, the less inclined you will be to use it, 
>>> thereby not maximising your investment.  How I would love a
> cross-trainer!
>> (smile).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Reid
>>> Sent: 15 May 2013 10:34
>>> To: 'david. chatten-smith'; 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> Cross trainer is easier on the knees, depending on how old you are. 
>>> You can do more things with it like go backwards and exercise your 
>>> arms as well.
>>> 
>>> Another bit of kit you might want to look is a spin bike. You can get 
>>> plenty of cardio and a bit like the cros trainer you can go backwards 
>>> and forwards, stand up sit down...
>>> 
>>> I would advise you to go to a gym and have a go or go to a shop that 
>>> sells the stuff and do the same.
>>> 
>>> Prices vary a lot, but, if you're not trying to win the olympics 
>>> don't pay loads. You need stuff that's comfortable and good enough 
>>> for the fitness you want for yourself.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of david.
>>> chatten-smith
>>> Sent: 15 May 2013 08:42
>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>> Subject: [BCAB] a bit OT, but???
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> sorry for this, i know that it is a bit of topic, but i was hoping 
>>> that i could get some reviews, on weather to get a cross trainer, or 
>>> a
>> treadmill?
>>> and if so any reccomdations?
>>> many thanks
>>> david
>>> hampshire
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