[BCAB] Talking news papers changes

Alan Booth a.t.booth at btinternet.com
Wed Apr 2 17:49:19 BST 2014


... and successfully done Tom, cheers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reid
Sent: 02 April 2014 17:24
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes

Apologies re this top quoting. It's virgin's mail arrangements. Trying to
sort it out. tom  

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of David
Griffith
Sent: 02 April 2014 16:32
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes

This was an issue raised before. I think Tom needs to stop top quoting these
long threads because as you say it is extremely difficult to locate what he
is actually saying as it is buried amongst automated list messages at the
end of long email threads.

The easiest thing in your position Tom, if you really want to keep top
quoting  as a setting in your email program, is replying to BCAB threads to
hit control  a and then delete to simply delete all of the existing email
before typing your reply. This would then make your email lack context but
at least it would be read.

As I understand it top quoting is also against list guidelines.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of David Boden
Sent: 02 April 2014 16:15
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Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes

That's the second blank message from you Tom.

If it's at the bottom then I'll never find it because I don't have the time
or inclination to check.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reid
Sent: 02 April 2014 16:02
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Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes

On 02/04/2014, Derek Hornby <derek.hornby_uk at btopenworld.com> wrote:
> The system  was tested by 30  volunteers  so RNIB says.
> Is there anyone on list  that did the testing.
> Derek
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
> Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:44 PM
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes
>
> On 02/04/2014, Derek Hornby <derek.hornby_uk at btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> Well  I have just  been told how to  login to the site.
>> The link  was ok,  but when I did the password  noting happened.
>>
>>
>> So from  a service that worked well,  I am left with no papers By 
>> email.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Iain
> Lackie
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:49 PM
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes
>>
>> I have just discovered that on the shop part of the website I have 
>> had to create a new account.
>>
>> Iain
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tiddy Ogg
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:40 PM
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes
>>
>> Well, they should certainly have made the change clearer to those 
>> getting papers by e-mail.
>> It's the usual corporate spiel about improving the service by 
>> stopping at least a part of it.
>> I went to the web site and it asked me to log on, but without user 
>> name or password that was impossible.
>> I guessed at my user name, and hoped they would offer a password 
>> reminder option, but they didn't.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/04/2014 11:54, Ian Macrae wrote:
>>> What's more they appear to have done so without telling or 
>>> consulting anyone.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On 2 Apr 2014, at 11:50, Derek Hornby wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems they have now  ended the email  service.
>>> I feel   that many  customers find the email service
>>> Quicker,  and maybe easier to use.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>> Tiddy Ogg
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:37 AM
>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Talking news papers changes
>>>
>>> Thanks Derek - wondered why I didn't get my papers today.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/04/2014 11:31, Derek Hornby wrote:
>>> First posted  on access-uk
>>> Thought  some on this list will  find this of interest.
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yesterday's launch of the new way to access electronic newspapers 
>>> and magazines from RNIB is just the first step on a journey to 
>>> increase the access for people to a range of reading material in the
future.
>>>
>>> The service from NTNM has become unsustainable due to its reliance 
>>> on software packages that are no longer supportable. We needed to 
>>> create a new way of offering newspapers and magazines which will be 
>>> both sustainable and can be built on and adapted in the future.
>>>
>>> Due to the size of this undertaking, and the time constraints we 
>>> have had to work in, we could not offer everything we, or our 
>>> customers, might have liked to have had available on day one. One of 
>>> these options was receiving content directly via email. Even though 
>>> this offering was not available, we felt that customers would still 
>>> be able to find titles through the website and by doing so, may come 
>>> across other titles that they may not have previously been aware of.
>>> The future offering will be shaped by the feedback we receive and we 
>>> would encourage you to send all feedback to 
>>> rnibsolutions at rnib.org.uk<mailto:rnibsolutions at rnib.org.uk> - this 
>>> is the
>>>
>>> only guarantee that your feedback
>>> will be received.
>>>
>>> For anyone experiencing any technical difficulties accessing the new 
>>> website, please contact our Technology Information Service by 
>>> calling
>>> +44(0)20 7391 2037 or emailing
>>> +ict at rnib.org.uk<mailto:ict at rnib.org.uk>
>>>
>>> In addition, Nature and New Scientist are still available. Any 
>>> editions produced after 1 April will be available via the new website.
>>> If you are looking for issues dated prior to 1 April, they can be 
>>> obtained through the NTNM website, as described in the communication 
>>> issued to all subscribers.
>>>
>>> As with any change, we recognise that it may take a little time to 
>>> get used to things, and we will endeavour to support you as much as 
>>> possible through this transition to a new way of accessing your 
>>> newspapers and magazines.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Clive Gardiner
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Agree Derek. Tried logging in and all I got was a header saying 
> titles, but, clicking and banging as I might, nothing. The old saying 
> if it's not broken, don't fix it comes to mind. tom
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Hi Derek, asked the same yesterday. Presumably, the folks had to agree to
non-disclosure, but, the system has obviously not been thoroughly tested. As
a tnauk user I was told there would be no more e-mail papers and that
speakOn would not work. Well!

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