[BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?

Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com
Sat Apr 12 13:25:40 BST 2014


OK final question on this Muzz, on the Mac I have Mail which is an app in 
myh case in the Doc.  I have set up a Gmail account through it.  Now can I 
download a different mail app for the Mac which opens solely as itself 
without going through the Mail app on my Doc?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M Lakhani" <muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com>
To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?


> Correct Eleanor! Either give each person a single mail client (eg Sparrow 
> for Mr Bloggs & AppleMail for Mrs Bloggs etc), or one mail client per 
> email account (eg AppleMail for Outlook.com & AOL mail for aol.com ) if 
> you have more than one email account. I've never really liked MS Outlook 
> or Windows Live Mail  on PC either & I've used this approach to cut down 
> on work emails interfering with personal ones, for better security & 
> privacy, & for bypassing too many menus within one app.
> By the way Eleanor, to clarify, Gmail is also a Mac & iOS app, not just an 
> email provider, & the Gmail mail  client can be downloaded online.
> HTH
> Muzz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 12 Apr 2014, at 11:32, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>> <eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure I am following this thread correctly so am looking for 
>> clarification at this point.
>> As I understood it at the beginning of the thread Steve Nutt was talking 
>> about the problem of having 2 main accounts coming in to the one Inbox. 
>> I then understood Muzz to say that different mail clients could be used 
>> and I understood that this meant that there could be different mail 
>> clients on the Mac, say one for each account.  This prompted me to ask 
>> what mail accounts. Below Muzz gives various ones but I am again unclear 
>> if these mail clients will have the same problem of all mail coming in to 
>> the same account, e.g. if I had 2 gmail accounts.  On the other hand 
>> perhaps Muzz is saying that different mail clients can be installed as 
>> individual apps on the Mac?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Lakhani" 
>> <muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com>
>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>
>>
>>> Gmail is really good for some advanced tweaking & is pretty accessible, 
>>> robust & free!
>>> Sparrow is not bad, but I don't find the latest update to be as 
>>> customisable!
>>> AOL mail is another good onne!
>>> There is also more text based ones if you know how to get stuff via 
>>> repositories like macports or fink on the terminal!
>>> HTH
>>> Muzz
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:19, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>>>> <eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What other mail clients do you use then Muzz?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Lakhani" 
>>>> <muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com>
>>>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it would be good to set up one person on one mail client app. 
>>>>> There are other mail clients out there & I've used this strategy on my 
>>>>> Mac & PC since 2010!
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> Muzz
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 23:43, "Steve Nutt" <steve at comproom.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it doesn't help at all, since you probably didn't read the message
>>>>>> properly <Smile>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how to get to the inbox, but the inbox is unified, if you have 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than one account.  I wanted a non-unified inbox.  Looks like you 
>>>>>> can't do it
>>>>>> with Apple, you have to select which inbox you want every time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boring but there it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Computer Room Services
>>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>>> SG1 4PW
>>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>>>>> Email: steve at comproom.co.uk
>>>>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of David
>>>>>> Griffith
>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2014 22:23
>>>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have only just come into this thread  as I have been away for a 
>>>>>> week and
>>>>>> have therefore not read all the correspondence, but if you are asking 
>>>>>> how to
>>>>>> quickly get to the Inbox in Mail then simply press command 1 and you 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> jump straight there no matter where you are in Mail. This is much 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> efficient and easier than VO Cursoring around. You will also find 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> pressing command key and other numbers on the Number row will jump 
>>>>>> you to
>>>>>> other useful places within Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve 
>>>>>> Nutt
>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2014 12:56
>>>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Muzz,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for this.  I'll play over the weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Computer Room Services
>>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>>> SG1 4PW
>>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>>>>> Email: steve at comproom.co.uk
>>>>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of M 
>>>>>> Lakhani
>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2014 04:08
>>>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok from left to right, the default layout of mail is as follows:
>>>>>> Inboxes; Inbox list; Message preview pane.
>>>>>> Just stop interacting with the messages table, VO+left to inboxes & 
>>>>>> interact
>>>>>> with the list. It's VO+\ to expand or collapse menus.
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> Muzz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 21:59, "Steve Nutt" <steve at comproom.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But how do you get to the mailboxes table from the Emails?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Computer Room Services
>>>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>>>> SG1 4PW
>>>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>>>>>> Email: steve at comproom.co.uk
>>>>>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>>> boy
>>>>>>> Sent: 10 April 2014 17:10
>>>>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Steve and all
>>>>>>> No you cannot turn this unified view off. But what you can do is 
>>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>> the inbox in the mailboxes table. You will then see the inbox for 
>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>> separate account. Select the account in the table. The next table 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> only show e-mails from the account selected above. The same applies 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> other mailboxes too such as sent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/04/2014 12:01, Steve Nutt wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK I know a lot about PCs and have just jumped into the Mac world 
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> a Macbook Pro.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hardware is lovely, VO has great assistance built in and by and
>>>>>> large,
>>>>>>>> it's pretty good.  It's not as powerful for configuring as 
>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>> Window-Eyes in my view, but I'm coming along well with it and using 
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> an open mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, I've come across an odd thing which is nothing to do with 
>>>>>>>> VO and
>>>>>>>> wondered if anyone can help please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My wife Angie and I want to share it and so we have set up two 
>>>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Mail.  They are both Imap accounts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, what my Mac is doing is showing us the mail in a unified 
>>>>>>>> inbox,
>>>>>>>> that is to say all of our mail is mixed up into one inbox.  Is 
>>>>>>>> there any
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> to turn this off please and to be able to select which inbox we 
>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>> view, or come to that which folder on the Imap server we want to 
>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>> each account, like you can with Outlook?  Ideally we want to be 
>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>> select accounts separately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Computer Room Services
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SG1 4PW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email: steve at comproom.co.uk <mailto:steve at comproom.co.uk>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/>
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