[BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Sat Apr 12 19:58:58 BST 2014


Hi,

Seems a cludgy way around it to learn different Email programs, just because
you have two accounts.  Ah well.

All the best

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of M Lakhani
Sent: 12 April 2014 16:28
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?

Yep you did :) ! My apologies I read that wrong! Answer is still yes! One
account per mail client is a good way to do things, but that's just a
personal opinion.
HTH
Muzz

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Apr 2014, at 16:19, eleanor martha burke
<eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I did actually say it was from more than one mail account
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 12 Apr 2014, at 16:04, M Lakhani <muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Eleanor! :) 
>> You can have as many mail apps as you like. I listed out some for you &
they are all available either online or on the mac app store. Just not sure
why one would use several different apps just for managing one single mail
account on one device that's for one user only, but yes is the answer. 
>> HTH
>> Muzz 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 12 Apr 2014, at 13:25, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
<eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK final question on this Muzz, on the Mac I have Mail which is an app
in myh case in the Doc.  I have set up a Gmail account through it.  Now can
I download a different mail app for the Mac which opens solely as itself
without going through the Mail app on my Doc?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Lakhani"
<muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com>
>>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Correct Eleanor! Either give each person a single mail client (eg
Sparrow for Mr Bloggs & AppleMail for Mrs Bloggs etc), or one mail client
per email account (eg AppleMail for Outlook.com & AOL mail for aol.com ) if
you have more than one email account. I've never really liked MS Outlook or
Windows Live Mail  on PC either & I've used this approach to cut down on
work emails interfering with personal ones, for better security & privacy, &
for bypassing too many menus within one app.
>>>> By the way Eleanor, to clarify, Gmail is also a Mac & iOS app, not just
an email provider, & the Gmail mail  client can be downloaded online.
>>>> HTH
>>>> Muzz
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12 Apr 2014, at 11:32, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
<eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not sure I am following this thread correctly so am looking for
clarification at this point.
>>>>> As I understood it at the beginning of the thread Steve Nutt was
talking about the problem of having 2 main accounts coming in to the one
Inbox. I then understood Muzz to say that different mail clients could be
used and I understood that this meant that there could be different mail
clients on the Mac, say one for each account.  This prompted me to ask what
mail accounts. Below Muzz gives various ones but I am again unclear if these
mail clients will have the same problem of all mail coming in to the same
account, e.g. if I had 2 gmail accounts.  On the other hand perhaps Muzz is
saying that different mail clients can be installed as individual apps on
the Mac?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Lakhani"
<muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com>
>>>>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gmail is really good for some advanced tweaking & is pretty
accessible, robust & free!
>>>>>> Sparrow is not bad, but I don't find the latest update to be as
customisable!
>>>>>> AOL mail is another good onne!
>>>>>> There is also more text based ones if you know how to get stuff via
repositories like macports or fink on the terminal!
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> Muzz
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:19, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
<eleanormarthaburke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What other mail clients do you use then Muzz?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Lakhani"
<muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:15 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps it would be good to set up one person on one mail client
app. There are other mail clients out there & I've used this strategy on my
Mac & PC since 2010!
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>> Muzz
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 23:43, "Steve Nutt" <steve at comproom.co.uk>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No it doesn't help at all, since you probably didn't read the
message
>>>>>>>>> properly <Smile>.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I know how to get to the inbox, but the inbox is unified, if you
have more
>>>>>>>>> than one account.  I wanted a non-unified inbox.  Looks like you
can't do it
>>>>>>>>> with Apple, you have to select which inbox you want every time.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Boring but there it is.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>>>>>> SG1 4PW
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>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of
David
>>>>>>>>> Griffith
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2014 22:23
>>>>>>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have only just come into this thread  as I have been away for a
week and
>>>>>>>>> have therefore not read all the correspondence, but if you are
asking how to
>>>>>>>>> quickly get to the Inbox in Mail then simply press command 1 and
you will
>>>>>>>>> jump straight there no matter where you are in Mail. This is much
more
>>>>>>>>> efficient and easier than VO Cursoring around. You will also find
that
>>>>>>>>> pressing command key and other numbers on the Number row will jump
you to
>>>>>>>>> other useful places within Mail.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2014 12:56
>>>>>>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Muzz,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this.  I'll play over the weekend.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Computer Room Services
>>>>>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>>>>>> SG1 4PW
>>>>>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>>>>>>>> Email: steve at comproom.co.uk
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of M
Lakhani
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2014 04:08
>>>>>>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ok from left to right, the default layout of mail is as follows:
>>>>>>>>> Inboxes; Inbox list; Message preview pane.
>>>>>>>>> Just stop interacting with the messages table, VO+left to inboxes
& interact
>>>>>>>>> with the list. It's VO+\ to expand or collapse menus.
>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>> Muzz
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 21:59, "Steve Nutt" <steve at comproom.co.uk>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But how do you get to the mailboxes table from the Emails?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>>>>>>> Hertfordshire
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>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>>>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of
Chris
>>>>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>>>>>> boy
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 10 April 2014 17:10
>>>>>>>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Mac help for a beginner?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve and all
>>>>>>>>>> No you cannot turn this unified view off. But what you can do is
expand
>>>>>>>>>> the inbox in the mailboxes table. You will then see the inbox for
each
>>>>>>>>>> separate account. Select the account in the table. The next table
will
>>>>>>>>>> only show e-mails from the account selected above. The same
applies to
>>>>>>>>>> other mailboxes too such as sent.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards Chris
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/04/2014 12:01, Steve Nutt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> OK I know a lot about PCs and have just jumped into the Mac
world by
>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>> a Macbook Pro.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The hardware is lovely, VO has great assistance built in and by
and
>>>>>>>>> large,
>>>>>>>>>>> it's pretty good.  It's not as powerful for configuring as
something like
>>>>>>>>>>> Window-Eyes in my view, but I'm coming along well with it and
using it
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> an open mind.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> However, I've come across an odd thing which is nothing to do
with VO and
>>>>>>>>>>> wondered if anyone can help please?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My wife Angie and I want to share it and so we have set up two
accounts
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Mail.  They are both Imap accounts.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> However, what my Mac is doing is showing us the mail in a
unified inbox,
>>>>>>>>>>> that is to say all of our mail is mixed up into one inbox.  Is
there any
>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>> to turn this off please and to be able to select which inbox we
want to
>>>>>>>>>>> view, or come to that which folder on the Imap server we want to
view
>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>> each account, like you can with Outlook?  Ideally we want to be
able to
>>>>>>>>>>> select accounts separately.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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