[BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen plunge!

Mark Turnham mark.turnham at sky.com
Wed Feb 19 16:52:52 GMT 2014


sorry chris, that is incorrect. there are just as many security breaches and
malwear issues with Android as much as IOS.

Careful with sweeping statements.

I went for android based on afordability and customisation. 

for me, I made the right choice.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: 19 February 2014 08:10
To: barry.hill3 at sky.com; BCAB Discussion List
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen plunge!

I personally like the closed nature of the iPhone and other iOS products.
Look at the Malware that's out there on Android. No such thing exists on iOS
due to the close nature. Sure there are security loopholes etc but you will
find this on all platforms. At least they get fixed quickly depending on
severity. Just my thoughts.

Regards Chris

On 19/02/2014 07:55, Barry Hill wrote:
> Got to agree there, Steve.  I get frustrated that I can't get in there 
> and mess with my iPhone.  It's like a nanny, a very competent nanny, 
> but a nanny nevertheless.  I suppose I could jailbreak it, but I'm not 
> averse enough to being nannied to do so.  Maybe if I get an upgrade, 
> I'll jailbreak the old iPhone and see what I've been missing.
>
> Cheers
>
> Barry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Nutt
> Sent: 18 February 2014 09:33 PM
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen plunge!
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> You hit the nail on the head, it's the old comfi slippers syndrome.  
> If you're happy with what you got, don't change it.  I however love 
> adventure and more open software and certainly love Android.  That's 
> not to say though I don't love the accessibility of the iPhone, I just 
> hate the restrictions imposed on iThings.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian 
> Macrae
> Sent: 18 February 2014 11:49
> To: sandragayer7 at gmail.com; BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen plunge!
>
> Most people find the compressed Daniel voice difficult to live with, 
> but others have gone instead for the Australian Karen voice which 
> comes pre-loaded in the language rotor.  You need to be aware that 
> reports from users indicate that the 4S runs very slow with IOS 7.  
> And 8GB does look a bit like cutting too close to the bone for my 
> comfort.  Admittedly I speak as someone in the fortunate position of 
> having a 64 gig iPhone 5.  As you've seen, iPhone users are fierce in 
> asserting the superiority of our chosen products, but Android also has 
> a vociferous champion in Steve Nutt with whom you might want to talk 
> to get more of a balanced view.  I've never used Android but would 
> need a lot of persuading to move over from IOS not least because I'm very
used to it.
> On 18 Feb 2014, at 11:24, Sandra Gayer wrote:
>
>> Thank you everyone for such comprehensive answers! I think that if I 
>> bought an Android phone, I would need to buy a speech solution as I 
>> haven't heard encouraging things about Talkback at this stage. I 
>> heard about an Indian engineer who designed a Braille Smartphone 
>> prototype, planning to launch towards the end of last year and 
>> nothing has been reported since. Articles kept saying, "unique", 
>> "world's first" and "enterprising", however, it's the fourth product 
>> of this kind I've heard about over the last three years, following 
>> the same pattern of excitement to silence which is a real shame.
>>
>> Returning to my current plan of action, I have to admit I am tempted 
>> by the 4S pricetag even though it's 8 Gigabytes. Can anyone tell me 
>> if Voiceover comes with an acceptable voice at the start. I'd be 
>> perfectly happy with ETI Eliquence. If it came with that I wouldn't 
>> buy something else as well.
>>
>> Muz, I haven't already got a Braille display although I do use an 
>> MPower that, apparently, cannot connect to IOS or Android. If Android 
>> phones still had physical qwerty keyboards, that could change 
>> everything.
>>
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>>
>> On 2/18/14, Iain Lackie <ilackie at perth44.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 16 would probably be sufficient, but I myself went for 32.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 17 Feb 2014, at 11:09 pm, Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>> Thank you so much for all your advice! The thing I really want is a 
>>>> Braille Tablet/Smartphone Hybrid. Well I don't have 1000 years to 
>>>> wait for that so I'm sticking to the Smartphone with Braille 
>>>> Display plan of action.
>>>>
>>>> I was most in favour of the IPhone although I liked th idea of 
>>>> greater choice if looking at the Android OS. My last question is:
>>>> I've just about decided to purchase an IPhone C but don't know 
>>>> whether I'd need 16 or 32 gigabytes worth of space. Would 16 be 
>>>> alright if I wanted a premium voice for Voice-over and several apps?
>>>> Would the speed of the unit be compromised? Also, does connecting 
>>>> external devices such as Braille Displays take upGigabytes? I don't 
>>>> know as much as I would like to.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for putting up with my questions, very best wishes, Sandra.
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/14, Chris H <christopherh40 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> And if you are a Braillist check out the excellent MBraille.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/02/2014 18:05, Iain Lackie wrote:
>>>>>> Fleksy is an app which some people find makes typing on the 
>>>>>> iPhone easier and quicker. The idea is that you tap the screen 
>>>>>> where you
> think
>>>>>> the letter you want might be and the app constructs the word it 
>>>>>> thinks you want. There is a list of words in case the initial 
>>>>>> word you are given isn't the one you want. You can also add words 
>>>>>> to the Fleksy dictionary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Padma Cheriyan
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 5:32 PM
>>>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen 
>>>>>> plunge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please tell me what is flexi ap?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Padma
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Iain Lackie
>>>>>> Sent: 17 February 2014 17:28
>>>>>> To: sandragayer7 at gmail.com; BCAB Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen 
>>>>>> plunge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to make this leap last year. I opted for the iPhone and 
>>>>>> haven't regretted it. In my case, it was an iPhone 5. The 
>>>>>> onscreen keyboard took a bit of getting used to. However, with 
>>>>>> the Fleksy app, my typing has speeded up greatly. I can't comment 
>>>>>> on Android phones as I have never used
> one.
>>>>>> However, I think that the fact that speech is built into the 
>>>>>> Apple OS is a definite plus point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Gayer
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:59 PM
>>>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: [BCAB] Sandra's thinking of taking the touch screen plunge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I'm sorry if this seems like this question is being asked too 
>>>>>> often but I'm thinking about keeping my Nokia C5 as a back-up and 
>>>>>> taking the final step towards a smartphone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been looking into IPhone versus Android and I like theIPhone 
>>>>>> because the speech and accessible applications seem to be further 
>>>>>> developed than the latter. (Please tell me if I'm wrong about this).
>>>>>> Apple's Braille support seems to be more sound, (they have key 
>>>>>> strokes listed and I haven't found this with my Android research).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple seem to be selling 4S 5S and 5C. I don't want to start an 
>>>>>> argument but, from the Blind perspective, what's the difference 
>>>>>> apart from different numbers and letters? Does IOS 7 have a good 
>>>>>> or bad impact on Voiceover or Braille Displays?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been looking into Braille Displays as well and like the 
>>>>>> sound of the Braille Pen 12 Touch. Does anyone have any 
>>>>>> experience with it and, if so, how durable is it? Would anyone 
>>>>>> recommend one Braille Display in conjunction with a touch screen
mobile device over another?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologise for all these questions just before lunch!
>>>>>> Very best wishes,
>>>>>> Sandra.
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