[BCAB] PDF Secured File

Neela neela4 at btinternet.com
Sat Feb 22 22:57:53 GMT 2014


I was told that the reader only required standard reading skills hence the lower rate. 

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> On 22 Feb 2014, at 21:32, "Roger Woolgrove" <rawoolgrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That sounds like someone doesn't know what is what.  Could you get them to send you that in writing and signed and dated.
> I think my reader gets £15.68 + something like 33pence per mile travelled. I'm not totally sure on the figures but it is certainly more than £12.
> 
> It's enough to make you spit.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neela" <neela4 at btinternet.com>
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
> 
> 
> Entitled perhaps but mine is only given 12 pounds per hour, even when I
> queried this I was told that 15 pounds per hour is the going rate but I
> would not receive that.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Woolgrove" <rawoolgrove at gmail.com>
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
> 
> 
> Hi Padma,
> 
> Another way around it is as follows:
> If you get an award from the DSA for a non-medical helper, you may even be
> able to ask a friend who understands your needs a little more.  You could
> ask them to edit the documents on your behalf and the DSA award would give
> them some lovely monies.
> The advantage of someone you know is that they may better understand your
> preferences without having to train someone new.  Also they can be entitled
> to roughly £20 per hour.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george at techno-vision.co.uk>
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
> 
> 
>> Did you have any choice in who the Window Eyes trainer was?
>> 
>> Personally I would have contacted the main distributor, Steve Nutt, who is on this list, and if he was not able to train you (which is unlikely), he would have recommended someone whom he has 100% confidence in.  If that person did not meet Steve's expectations, then heaven help them!)
>> 
>> And if you did not have any choice in the matter, I would definitely do as Roger suggests, and make a formal complaint.  Perhaps even demand they provide you with Steve's services.
>> 
>> (And please be assured that I have no commercial interest here other than wishing you to get good service.)
>> 
>> George.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Padma Cheriyan
>> Sent: 21 February 2014 19:32
>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>> 
>> Hello roger!
>> 
>> Thank you for your mail.  Although this is slightly outside the list subject, I hope list members might like to know that I had no help at all from the OU.  I think different departments do not talk to each other in helping the students.  I was expected to have necessary IT skills.  The DSA paid for training in Windoweyes which did not help me at all.  It was very difficult to find a good trainer.  I do hope you  include this in your comments if you are still in communication with them.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Padma
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roger Woolgrove
>> Sent: 21 February 2014 17:39
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>> 
>> Hi Padma,
>> 
>> I think I have been quite fortunate in that my first module tutor was excellent and she helped me to get in touch with the right people.  It did take some time and headache.  This is one of the reasons I insist on feeding
>> 
>> back to them, good and bad else they fiddle with things and make them inaccessible as opposed to finding problems and resolving them.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Padma Cheriyan" <pscheriyan at googlemail.com>
>> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I wish  I was told about VI advisor at the OU when I was studying.  They
>>> are
>>> not very good on communication.
>>> 
>>> Padma
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roger
>>> Woolgrove
>>> Sent: 19 February 2014 23:30
>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>> 
>>> Neila,
>>> 
>>> The DSA is only responsible for giving you the award and spending it on
>>> your
>>> 
>>> behalf.  The OU generally advise you to contact your local Learner Support
>>> office, they can be contacted from your Student Homepage and you should be
>>> able to get their email and phone numbers there.
>>> If you tell me the module codes, I may have some of the module materials
>>> if
>>> you are doing some of what I have done.
>>> Generally I have found the OU helpful but a couple of modules have been a
>>> pain in the abdominal.  With many of the .pdf files and structured content
>>> (HTML files) we get the interrupted speech, I have not found a way around
>>> this as yet.
>>> If you are still struggling then I would advise getting in contact with
>>> the
>>> V I department in MK.  There used to be a chap called Jeff Bashton who has
>>> now retired and I have no experience of his replacement.  You can find
>>> them
>>> at:
>>> vi-adviser at open.ac.uk
>>> Sadly I do not have the phone number anymore.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Roger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neela" <neela4 at btinternet.com>
>>> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Interesting question George, my Modules are all on-line ones and the DSA
>>>> office have told me they don't have anything to do with my course
>>>> materials
>>>> now but as you mention it I am going to write to them tonight.  I need to
>>>> read the file immediately but I can put up with my Word file if I have
>>>> to.
>>>> Will report back.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of George
>>>> Bell
>>>> Sent: 19 February 2014 17:49
>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>> 
>>>> So why has the Open University got a special department in Milton Keynes
>>>> to
>>>> deal with this kind of issue?
>>>> 
>>>> George.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neela
>>>> Sent: 19 February 2014 17:00
>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>> Subject: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>> 
>>>> I have a pdf file which while someone put it in to Word for me, I find it
>>>> very hard to read from a study point of view, as the footnotes are now
>>>> running in to the text.  This makes it hard for continuous reading of the
>>>> 56
>>>> page document.  I do have Adobie Professional and as this is an image
>>>> file,
>>>> I had hoped that it could use its in-built OCR but it is not doing that
>>>> either so I imagine that it has something to do with the security tags.
>>>> I
>>>> did ask the Open University library about getting this document in an
>>>> accessable format but they did not seem to think they could help and
>>>> suggested alternative study material.  However, my tutor advised this
>>>> article so I am a bit stuick.  Can anyone help re this matter of an
>>>> accessable format.  Please contact me off list if you can and I will send
>>>> the pdf file to you.
>>>> 
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