[BCAB] PDF Secured File

Roger Woolgrove rawoolgrove at gmail.com
Sun Feb 23 00:19:50 GMT 2014


Neela,

I think it might be the term "reader".  I would suggest re-applying for 
additional support and a non-medical assistant.  This suggests something 
more yet is comprehensive enough to sound "special".

Roger


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neela" <neela4 at btinternet.com>
To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File


>I was told that the reader only required standard reading skills hence the 
>lower rate.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 22 Feb 2014, at 21:32, "Roger Woolgrove" <rawoolgrove at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That sounds like someone doesn't know what is what.  Could you get them 
>> to send you that in writing and signed and dated.
>> I think my reader gets £15.68 + something like 33pence per mile 
>> travelled. I'm not totally sure on the figures but it is certainly more 
>> than £12.
>>
>> It's enough to make you spit.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neela" <neela4 at btinternet.com>
>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 3:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>
>>
>> Entitled perhaps but mine is only given 12 pounds per hour, even when I
>> queried this I was told that 15 pounds per hour is the going rate but I
>> would not receive that.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Woolgrove" 
>> <rawoolgrove at gmail.com>
>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 1:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>
>>
>> Hi Padma,
>>
>> Another way around it is as follows:
>> If you get an award from the DSA for a non-medical helper, you may even 
>> be
>> able to ask a friend who understands your needs a little more.  You could
>> ask them to edit the documents on your behalf and the DSA award would 
>> give
>> them some lovely monies.
>> The advantage of someone you know is that they may better understand your
>> preferences without having to train someone new.  Also they can be 
>> entitled
>> to roughly £20 per hour.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" 
>> <george at techno-vision.co.uk>
>> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>
>>
>>> Did you have any choice in who the Window Eyes trainer was?
>>>
>>> Personally I would have contacted the main distributor, Steve Nutt, who 
>>> is on this list, and if he was not able to train you (which is 
>>> unlikely), he would have recommended someone whom he has 100% confidence 
>>> in.  If that person did not meet Steve's expectations, then heaven help 
>>> them!)
>>>
>>> And if you did not have any choice in the matter, I would definitely do 
>>> as Roger suggests, and make a formal complaint.  Perhaps even demand 
>>> they provide you with Steve's services.
>>>
>>> (And please be assured that I have no commercial interest here other 
>>> than wishing you to get good service.)
>>>
>>> George.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Padma 
>>> Cheriyan
>>> Sent: 21 February 2014 19:32
>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>
>>> Hello roger!
>>>
>>> Thank you for your mail.  Although this is slightly outside the list 
>>> subject, I hope list members might like to know that I had no help at 
>>> all from the OU.  I think different departments do not talk to each 
>>> other in helping the students.  I was expected to have necessary IT 
>>> skills.  The DSA paid for training in Windoweyes which did not help me 
>>> at all.  It was very difficult to find a good trainer.  I do hope you 
>>> include this in your comments if you are still in communication with 
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Padma
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roger 
>>> Woolgrove
>>> Sent: 21 February 2014 17:39
>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>
>>> Hi Padma,
>>>
>>> I think I have been quite fortunate in that my first module tutor was 
>>> excellent and she helped me to get in touch with the right people.  It 
>>> did take some time and headache.  This is one of the reasons I insist on 
>>> feeding
>>>
>>> back to them, good and bad else they fiddle with things and make them 
>>> inaccessible as opposed to finding problems and resolving them.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Padma Cheriyan" <pscheriyan at googlemail.com>
>>> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I wish  I was told about VI advisor at the OU when I was studying. 
>>>> They
>>>> are
>>>> not very good on communication.
>>>>
>>>> Padma
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roger
>>>> Woolgrove
>>>> Sent: 19 February 2014 23:30
>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>>
>>>> Neila,
>>>>
>>>> The DSA is only responsible for giving you the award and spending it on
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>> behalf.  The OU generally advise you to contact your local Learner 
>>>> Support
>>>> office, they can be contacted from your Student Homepage and you should 
>>>> be
>>>> able to get their email and phone numbers there.
>>>> If you tell me the module codes, I may have some of the module 
>>>> materials
>>>> if
>>>> you are doing some of what I have done.
>>>> Generally I have found the OU helpful but a couple of modules have been 
>>>> a
>>>> pain in the abdominal.  With many of the .pdf files and structured 
>>>> content
>>>> (HTML files) we get the interrupted speech, I have not found a way 
>>>> around
>>>> this as yet.
>>>> If you are still struggling then I would advise getting in contact with
>>>> the
>>>> V I department in MK.  There used to be a chap called Jeff Bashton who 
>>>> has
>>>> now retired and I have no experience of his replacement.  You can find
>>>> them
>>>> at:
>>>> vi-adviser at open.ac.uk
>>>> Sadly I do not have the phone number anymore.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neela" <neela4 at btinternet.com>
>>>> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting question George, my Modules are all on-line ones and the 
>>>>> DSA
>>>>> office have told me they don't have anything to do with my course
>>>>> materials
>>>>> now but as you mention it I am going to write to them tonight.  I need 
>>>>> to
>>>>> read the file immediately but I can put up with my Word file if I have
>>>>> to.
>>>>> Will report back.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of George
>>>>> Bell
>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2014 17:49
>>>>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>>>
>>>>> So why has the Open University got a special department in Milton 
>>>>> Keynes
>>>>> to
>>>>> deal with this kind of issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> George.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neela
>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2014 17:00
>>>>> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
>>>>> Subject: [BCAB] PDF Secured File
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a pdf file which while someone put it in to Word for me, I find 
>>>>> it
>>>>> very hard to read from a study point of view, as the footnotes are now
>>>>> running in to the text.  This makes it hard for continuous reading of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> 56
>>>>> page document.  I do have Adobie Professional and as this is an image
>>>>> file,
>>>>> I had hoped that it could use its in-built OCR but it is not doing 
>>>>> that
>>>>> either so I imagine that it has something to do with the security 
>>>>> tags.
>>>>> I
>>>>> did ask the Open University library about getting this document in an
>>>>> accessable format but they did not seem to think they could help and
>>>>> suggested alternative study material.  However, my tutor advised this
>>>>> article so I am a bit stuick.  Can anyone help re this matter of an
>>>>> accessable format.  Please contact me off list if you can and I will 
>>>>> send
>>>>> the pdf file to you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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