[BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS

Jackie Brown thebrownsplace at btinternet.com
Wed Feb 26 10:54:48 GMT 2014


Hi Andrew

This is most helpful, many thanks.  Just one question now though: we use 64
bit machines except on one laptop which is 32 bit.  So does it matter which
version of 365 you get, or does it detect the operating system at the time
of installation?

Many thanks.



Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew
Hodgson
Sent: 25 February 2014 20:48
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS

Hi,

No jokes, Office 2013 is a learning curve from 2010, and even more so from
2003.  I am using it at home, and we are threatening to go with it at work
as well.

I don't really have any trouble using the basic stuff, Outlook, Word and
Excel allow me to continue to do what I do at the moment.  Some annoying
features are the new spell checker in Word, and some of the commands have
changed from 2010.

I use Office 365 under the business plan, but essentially the Office
software is the same, and it works so long as you keep up the subscription
to the service.  One potential downfall is that the system only provides you
the latest version of Office, so in a couple of years when Office 2016 (or
whatever) is the newest version, that is the only version going to be
available to use.  I still feel it is a good deal though.

Office 2010 can be purchased from Amazon through resellers.

I urge anyone still using Office 2003 to look into upgrading to at least
Office 2010 due to the support ending for the product imminently.
Especially if at work, most places are using at least 2007 now, 2010 is the
popular version at the moment.

Thanks.
Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 25 February 2014 14:51
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS

Hi Phil

Yes, you are caught between 365 for I think £69 per year, or a single
installation for a lot more.  As I have been using 2003 for around 10 years,
I have more than had value for money.  But as my husband needs something in
the Office line on his machine, we have thought about purchasing 365 and
putting it on both our computers.  We also have laptops as backup, so it
kind of answers itself to go that way.

>From what people are saying, JAWS works, but there are a few issues with
version 15 and Office 2013.  Still, we aren't stuck because we have
Window-Eyes, and I believe NVDA works with it as well, though I have never
used it yet.

All things considered, it looks like 365 for us and a crash course in the
use of ribbons.  I have 2010 on my laptop though, and have managed to
customise Word a bit.  Not sure why it was necessary to scupper everything,
but there we have it, (smile).


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Agent Orange
Sent: 25 February 2014 13:14
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS


Jacky,

Yes, I think 2003 will have to bite the dust come what may as trying to
engineer a co-existence with either 2010 or 2013 will likely give rise to
problems.

Regarding JFW compatibility with Office 2010 / 2013 - the advice which I
received from Blazie a few months ago, when I asked them the same question,
was that the most stable current combination was JFW 14 and Office 2010.  I
believe JFW 15 and Office 2013 will work reasonably satisfactorily, but
there are still glitches to be ironed out.

Stability being important to me, I decided to go for JFW 14 and Office 2010.
I found that once I had configured the toolbars, ribbon, and panes, this
combination does indeed work fairly well (though takes quite some getting
used to).  

However, this has to be balanced against the increased lifecycle which you
will get from Office 2013 / 365, and the reduced cost for multiple
installations on the latter.  Difficult choice.

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 25 February 2014 12:45
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS

Hi Phil and Terry

I have read the blurb about the two co-habiting, but not recommended.  In
reality I wouldn't put the two on together, but I wondered if anyone had
done it satisfactorily.

So it comes to which version works best with the Shark?  My husband has had
his machine formatted recently, and is looking to see which Office to
purchase, but I have heard a couple of instances of problems regarding JAWS
15 and MS Professional 2013.  If Martin decides to go with 365, this can be
put on up to five computers, so I guess it would make it more financially
viable for us both to use it.  Goodbye 2003 in that case, (gulp).


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of roadster
Sent: 25 February 2014 12:39
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS

Hi 

Another important thing to consider, is that yes, I've previously had office
2003 and 2010 installed and working at the same time on my laptop, but with
the caveats, which is that you can only use the later version of outlook, in
my case, the 2010 version. 

All other features of office can be used separately, apart from Outlook.
You will no longer have access to your earlier version of outlook, in my
case, 2003.

Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Agent Orange
Sent: 25 February 2014 12:31
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS


I can't speak for the accessibility of Office 2013/365.  

However, as to compatibility between versions of Office, Microsoft advice is
as follows:

-  It is technically possible for an earlier version of Office to co-exist
with a later version, if  version.


(a) the earlier version was installed first, and
(b) both versions are the same architecture (either 32 or 64 bit); 

-  However, it strenuously advises against two versions of Office
co-existing on the same system, and recommends that the earlier version be
removed entirely prior to installation of the later version.

Yes, I know, a mixed message if ever I heard one...

There is quite a lot about this topic in forum posts and on Microsoft
websites.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 25 February 2014 12:09
To: access-uk at freelists.org; 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: [BCAB] Microsoft Office 2013 with JAWS

Apologies for cross-posting, but I would be grateful for your opinions on
which version of Microsoft Office 2013 works best with JAWS 15?  We have
been looking at various MS packages, and are thinking of Microsoft Office
365.  Could anyone using this identify any problem areas to watch out for?
Is it possible to run the latest version of MS Office with the 2003 version,
or does this have to be completely removed before the new copy is installed?
I am not particularly looking forward to this journey, but I guess needs
must.

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate


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