[BCAB] Amedia Live

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Tue Aug 9 17:15:12 BST 2016


Hi Sean,

We have that in common then. <Smile>.  Being bloody minded I mean and total.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sean Randall
Sent: 09 August 2016 12:40
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live

Indeed I am.
I have been using cameras for many years now, perhaps that has some
influence. Also, I suppose I am just very stubborn and bloody-minded.



Sean Randall
IT and Accessibility Specialist
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Phone +44 (0) 1905 692280
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> On 9 Aug 2016, at 12:24, Steve Nutt <steve at comproom.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jackie,
> 
> To be fair though, it must be pointed out that I believe Sean is 
> total.  So for him to get results like that, it must be do-able.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie 
> Brown
> Sent: 09 August 2016 11:46
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Hi Richard
> 
> I tend to agree.  By the very nature of RNIB suggesting an app of the 
> month,it implies accessibility is very good.  I do appreciate, 
> however, that this kind of app differs greatly from person to person, 
> and that Sean using it, for example, is not mine or your experience thus
far, Richard.
> Accessibility for someone with some useful sight is definitely not the 
> same as for a totally blind person.
> 
> I'll keep trying when I get some time.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Emails: thebrownsplace at btinternet.com
> jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
> Sent: 09 August 2016 11:38
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Paul, surely by highlighting an app of the month, the implication is 
> that that is a recommendation.  If that isn't the case, or if problems may
be
> anticipated, I feel that it would be helpful to make this clear.    
> 
> Richard
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Porter, Paul
> Sent: 09 August 2016 11:30
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> As the team who choose app of the month, this is not correct.
> 
> We are all visually impaired. Some users have had success with this app.
> 
> We aren't recommending apps but putting them out there for people to 
> investigate.
> 
> We want this to be a two-way process and encourage users to submit 
> apps for inclusion in app of the month.
> 
> This invariably doesn't happen. If you have an app to share please 
> email the Technology For Life Team tfl at rnib.org.uk
> 
> Sean's comments are exactly what we're looking for.
> 
> Looking forward to more app reviews
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sean 
> Randall
> Sent: 09 August 2016 10:37
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Jackie,
> 
> The problem with the RNIB recommending apps is that oftentimes people 
> with more vision than others have a lot of say in the choosing.  It's 
> not a very well-described app either, it sounds as iff someone either 
> sighted or with a lot of vision tried it out first, or to be honest 
> that they just read the copy online and went with that.
> 
> Personally I wouldn't be without the app now.  I use it on packets, 
> jars, boxes, screens, signs and all sorts of things.  As I mentioned 
> earlier in the week I don't find it very helpful for documents 
> directly, but it's great for me when it comes to food expiration 
> dates, setting the temperature on the air conditioning units at work 
> or choosing the HDMI output on inaccessible TVs, all the niggly little 
> jobs where the time taken to "take picture" might be  a problem etc.  
> I do find it unfortunate that Apple's refund policy isn't as wonderful 
> as Googles, but  also think that we don't need yet another thread 
> descending into anarchy about the best mobile OS, either...
> 
> 
> 
> Sean.
> 
> __
> Sean Randall
> IT and Accessibility Specialist
> Email Contact at SeanRandall.me
> Phone +44 (0) 1905 692280
> Or visit My LinkedIn Profile for my blog posts, areas of interest and 
> qualifications at http://UK.LinkedIn.com/in/AccessibleSean
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie 
> Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016. 10:25 AM
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Thanks Richard, will do this when I get my bill Email which hasn't 
> come through yet.  I wouldn't bother if it were only a pound or two, 
> but I don't think this app is worth the money, and I am surprised even 
> further that RNIB has it as app of the month!
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Emails: thebrownsplace at btinternet.com
> jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> jackie at thebrownsplace.info
> Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Read my EyeWrite blog:
> www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
> Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: thejackmate
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
> Sent: 09 August 2016 10:10
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Jackie, If you look at the e-mail confirming the purchase, you should 
> have a link called "report a problem".
> 
> If you activate the link, you should be taken to a page with a combo 
> box on it which allows you to select the reason for the problem, and 
> there's a box where you can enter other comments.  Seems 
> straightforward enough, but haven't had my refund yet!
> 
> Richard
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
> Telephone: 01738-445 880
> Mobile: 07791 452 593
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie 
> Brown
> Sent: 09 August 2016 09:58
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Hi Richard
> 
> How do you do that, please?  It is something I have never done given 
> that apps I have tried before that haven't worked are cheap enough as a
rule.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Emails: thebrownsplace at btinternet.com
> jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> jackie at thebrownsplace.info
> Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Read my EyeWrite blog:
> www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
> Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: thejackmate
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
> Sent: 09 August 2016 09:42
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> Yes, I've asked for a refund.  Anyone know how long they take to 
> process requests?
> 
> Richard
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
> Telephone: 01738-445 880
> Mobile: 07791 452 593
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie 
> Brown
> Sent: 09 August 2016 09:31
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: [BCAB] Amedia Live
> 
> I bought this app last night following the various comments on and off 
> list about it.  I have to say, however, that I couldn't put hand on 
> heart and recommend it.  I appreciate it takes a lot of practice, and 
> am prepared to take that into account.  But it does a lot of beeping - 
> which frankly drives me round the bend - and does pick up text, but 
> doesn't always read it that well.  It seems to like objects rather 
> than documentation, I find, such as the washing-machine, or a computer 
> keyboard.  It is very early days, but I'm not overly impressed if I am 
> being honest.  I turned off the beeping, but unless it was me, I 
> couldn't get much out of it when I did that.  I find I can achieve 
> much more with K-NFB Reader, but I will keep trying and see what 
> happens.  At the moment though, I find it a very irritating,
time-consuming process.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Emails: thebrownsplace at btinternet.com
> jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> jackie at thebrownsplace.info
> Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Read my EyeWrite blog:
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> Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: thejackmate
> 
> 
> 
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