[BCAB] rnib in your pocket

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Mon Dec 11 18:13:58 GMT 2017


Hi Dennis,

Yes, with the right systems in place.  You could say Download My Book, instead of Listen To My Book.

All the best

Steve

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: 11 December 2017 17:57
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Steve,
Could that be done via voice and a mobile device?.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.


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Hi Graham,

What about Audible?  They let you download the book for offline listening.

What about Sky Q?  They let you download TV for offline viewing.

So I'm sure it could be done in an encrypted file format.

All the best

Steve

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 11 December 2017 16:30
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That's useful to know paul but I would want  this to be publicised as this is a massive limitation when travelling.

I would imagine the phone has an SD socket so there is no reason why downloaded books couldn't be stored quite easily on that card.

I suspect the problem lies more with copyright since I wouldn't imagine many publishers would be happy with a system where the book is permanently saved on the device.  With overdrive the book is deleted after the lending period has expired even though the protection is hardly bullet proof!

Cheers

Graham 

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Currently books are streamed in small chunks.

Paul


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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 11 December 2017 15:55
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One question I do have, and it's not made clear on the realsam website, is about storing books.

When you choose a book, is the book downloaded or do you just stream it directly from a server?

If you can't store the book on the device itself then I would imagine that listening to a book while travelling could be difficult.

Cheers

Graham

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: 11 December 2017 13:39
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Absolutely Paul,
The really good thing about in your pocket is that it can be used anywhere, rather than others that, at present, can be used whilst connected to wi-fi.
Of course the fact, for me at least, that you could listen to talking books anywhere was a plus but found it difficult to search by author.
Of course these devices have to be further developed and that takes time.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.


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Hi Dennis

The great thing with this product is that Real Thing genuinely want to engage with their users. They have often asked for feedback on what is and isn't working. As you pointed out they are quick to respond.

There is an argument to keep the device simple but phone functionality would be great and would make it a very desirable device.

Voice activated devices such as Amazon Echo and Google Home are increasingly improving. All these devices open technology to those who otherwise wouldn't be bothered or who feel technology isn't for them.

Paul

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Sent: 11 December 2017 13:20
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Hello paul,
As you will know I was delighted to work on the testing of in your pocket.
I saw problems with the searching for certain books and it was unfortunate that phone accessability wasn't included.
However I know this is going to be a feature in the next few months. That is, of course welcome.
Just to clarify I have always found real thing very receptive to responses and hope I have never indicated otherwise.

Its really the search function that I found caused frustration.
This will be an excellent device once fully developed.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.


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Sent: 11 December 2017 13:01
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Dennis

On what basis do you think the In your Pocket wasn't ready for release?

A lot of work was done before bringing it to market. It is a developing product. Real Thing are very responsive to support and requests for development.

Real Thing are a small company bringing voice activated services to market.

They have many happy users.

Here is a short statement from Real Thing outlining the new ways of purchasing In Your Pocket.

In Your Pocket Update
In Your Pocket has just been updated and now features a Doro device, with larger buttons and a great speaker for quality sound. It still comes with a subscription to RNIB Newsagent, access to RNIB Talking Books, as well as podcasts, weather, and location information. There is now an option to purchase for a single payment of £480, and if you order before 24 December, you receive a £30 discount. Alternatively sign up for £20 per month over 24 months. Call the dedicated In Your Pocket help line to order on 0333 772 7708, or order online at: http://realsam.co.uk

In Your Pocket Description
With voice control, In Your Pocket is ready to use out of the box, easy to use and great for listening on-the-go. You can get reading right away, without the need for a computer or downloads. You will always have access to the latest editions of newspapers, magazines and podcasts, wherever and whenever you want to listen. Just say "Read me The Guardian", or "Find books about gardening", or "Play me The Archers", and In Your Pocket will oblige.  You can also access other useful information, for example "What is the weather in Cambridge?", or "What is the time in Paris?".  Asking "Where am I?" tells you your current location, along with the nearest street intersection.

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: 11 December 2017 12:11
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Real thing seem now to have taken over from rnib in looking after in your pocket.

They will deal with direct debits or credit card orders.

They are now going to use the doro as their mobile device.

For further information please go to

www.realsam.co.uk <http://www.realsam.co.uk> 

Although I have returned my device it might be worth a look when more development has taken place.

Another example of marketing a device before it was fully tested and researched.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

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