[BCAB] Braille devices in education

Michael Cassidy mike.cassidy at ntlworld.com
Tue Jul 25 13:55:17 BST 2017


Hi David,

That sounds like a very casual study. What was its sample size and with whom were they comparing Braille users?

Atb,

Mike
> On 25 Jul 2017, at 11:56, David W Wood via Bcab <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Jackie
> 
> Apparently a casual study has also shown that Braille users progress further
> and more quickly in employment.
> 
> ATB
> 
> David W Wood
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:46 AM
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Braille devices in education
> 
> This might be slightly controversial, but drawing from my own education
> during the late 1960s and 70s.  I learnt Braille using a Perkins for
> writing.  But I also learnt to touch type at a young age too, and I really
> do think this is very important in education today, and why pupils and
> students shouldn't just be given a Braille input device.  I am so thankful
> that I had the option to type as well because I can just switch from one to
> the other and not give it a second thought.  And that's where devices such
> as ElBraille are great because you have the best of both worlds if you want
> it.  Children with partial or no sight should always be taught both Braille
> and qwerty input, it gives them a fighting chance when they grow up.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of dennis
> huckle
> Sent: 25 July 2017 11:13
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Braille devices in education
> 
> Also there is a facality to attach an hdmi moniter so as the instructor can
> view what the puple is doing.
> El braille is some thing I have just purchased and I am very impressed.
> Kind regards,
> Dennis huckle.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Michael
> Cassidy via Bcab
> Sent: 25 July 2017 11:10
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Cc: Michael Cassidy <mike.cassidy at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Braille devices in education
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> As one who has grown up with Braille but who has acquired qwerty keyboard
> skills as well, I feel that as far as possible each student should be
> assessed to find their most appropriate option. I would have thought that
> the majority these days would be choosing the qwerty option. For me,
> Elbraille looks a good option despite the price, and there is the facility
> to attach a qwerty keyboard as required.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mike
>> On 3 Jul 2017, at 16:50, Andrew Hodgson <andrew at hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Interesting question which I have been pondering on for a bit.  What
> Braille devices (notetakers, laptops, etc.) are people using in education
> these days?
>> 
>> A while ago I was speaking to someone who was giving out BrailleNote
> devices (not the Touch, but the ones before that), as they had the following
> features:
>> 
>> - Were durable;
>> - Had limited scope for damage or fiddling;
>> - Were simple to use;
>> - Allowed teachers to review the work that students were doing;
>> - Everything serviced (including software) by a single company.
>> 
>> I can see the advantages and disadvantages of all these, but I was 
>> quite
> impressed with the BrailleNote Touch for the education aspect, and that it
> was giving students an Android device in a single package, and teachers
> could look at the work students were doing if required.
>> 
>> Sean's recent email regarding the ElBraille raises a number of points,
> because obviously the unit is cheaper than a BrailleNote touch, and also has
> multiple possibilities regarding using the copy of JFW on other computers in
> the school (such as class computers, laptops etc.), but from someone who has
> limited knowledge of Braille, are they an attractive package for LEAs and
> schools to give out to students?
>> 
>> My own experience is using a standard laptop with WordPerfect (then 
>> when
> Windows was being used Word), with a screen reader.  I wouldn't have used
> anything else for my schooling now, but that is how I work.
>> 
>> I realise the best approach is to work with the student and find out 
>> what
> works best, but in a lot of cases that isn't doable especially when people
> try and get several devices of the same type and force these on all
> students.
>> 
>> So, what makes a good device for education, and how are children using
> these?  What are the barriers, what is causing concerns from people
> providing the equipment?
>> 
>> Discuss,
>> Andrew.
>> 
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