[BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Fri Jul 28 08:53:15 BST 2017


Hi Jackie,

Saw them yesterday at an exhibition, and they didn't have one unit there for
show <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 26 July 2017 18:18
To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions

VisionAid are not overly prompt at updating their website so perhaps this is
why there is no reference to Handy Tech there.

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tony Fox
Sent: 26 July 2017 17:27
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Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions

Hi Steve

The guy from Handytech was on the  Visionaid stand at SV Birmingham.

I have just checked the Handytech website and they show Visionaid as their
dealer

https://handytech.de/en/info/contact/international


Tony

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On 26 July 2017 at 17:21, Steve Nutt <steve at comproom.co.uk> wrote:

> Hijackie,
>
> Are you sure about this?  If I "shop by manufacturer" Handytech are 
> not listed on their web site at all.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie 
> Brown
> Sent: 26 July 2017 14:59
> To: pantonop at windtools.gr; 'BCAB Discussion List' 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions
>
> Hi Takis
>
> If I could afford one, I would have a Handy Tech Braille display in a 
> heartbeat.  I think they are the best units on the market.  VisionAid 
> has taken over these in the UK now I understand.  They don't get 
> discussed as often probably because of their cost.  So I just go on 
> dreaming a fairy godmother comes my way, or a magic Santa drops down 
> the chimney, I leave the fireplace ready just in case! (smile.)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jackie Brown
> Email: Jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Follow me on Twitter:
> @thebrownsplace Skype name: thejackmate
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Panagiotis Antonopoulos
> Sent: 26 July 2017 14:53
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions
>
> Hi all,
> I have almost never heard the Active Braille that I use, or 
> Handytech's displays discussed, might it be that they are not popular 
> in
the UK?
> Anyway,
> I think that the feel of it is also superb, extremely sturdy and 
> natural looking. When I sent it for maintenance, my dealer gave me a 
> focus 40 blue replacement for the time. I had no real problems with 
> the feeling, but it looked very mechanical to me, more a feeling of 
> metal
rather than plastic.
>                 Cheers,
>                 Takis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sean 
> Randall
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:25 PM
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions
>
> I do a lot with Dymo Tape! I am utterly offended by this message and 
> demand a full apology. On dymo tape of course!:D
>
> Joking, naturally - I agree that the feel of the focus isn't anything 
> like the Vario. But then nor is the Cannute, nor is the Orbit.
> You get what you pay for in dot quality sometimes.
>
> __
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> IT and Accessibility Specialist
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Nutt
> Sent: Wednesday 26 July 2017 02:18 PM
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions
>
> Hi matthew,
>
> That's the only reason I wouldn't buy one, the Braille on the Focus is 
> dreadful compared with other displays.  Like reading plastic dymo tape.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Horspool
> Sent: 25 July 2017 19:12
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions
>
> Hi Jim,
> My braille music skills are shameful, so I must admit I hadn't thought 
> about using the Apex in that context, but it is a fantastic example of 
> where a braille first approach far outstrips a mainstream alternative.
> I should stress here that I'm not deliberately trying to knock El 
> Braille and products like it. I saw one at Sight Village and wanted 
> one straight away purely because of how portable it is. Its most 
> off-putting feature, for me, is the Focus braille display that it 
> pears with. If it paired with something that had better quality 
> braille - a Brailliant or a Vario Ultra or something - I'd be much 
> more tempted.
> But I would be very interested to see how an El Braille coped with 
> braille music. Mary had a little lamb goes something like this:
> Dot 5, ed sign, wh sign, th sign, wh sign, ed sign, ed sign, ed sign.
> How would the back translator deal with the dot 5 ed sign? It isn't a 
> known contraction! If the back translator gets it wrong, what will the 
> forward translator give me in its place? How is that a reliable way of 
> taking down music dictation? Where is the mainstream advantage here?
> Matthew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of jim 
> taylor
> Sent: 25 July 2017 16:57
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ElBraille First Impressions
>
>
>
> Matthew, I, a fellow Apex user, fully endorse what you say.   You
> could, of course, have put your t h sign or t h e sign in quotes,
> or written:  "T H sign, E A sign, T, R, E".   As for italics,
> again you could resort to block capitals or asterisks.
>
> You did not mention the usefulness of the Apex's portability.
> Last night, in our choir rehearsal, we started work on three new
> carols for our Christmas carol service.   While the choirmaster
> was thumping out the bass parts on the piano, I was able to take them 
> down on the Apex (three cheers for Braille music!) and join in to the 
> best of my ability, even though nobody had thought to
> email me the words of the carols.   Still, what's a few la la la
> la la's between friends?   At least, I got the notes right,
> thanks to the Apex.
>
> Apart from its ancient software, the only trouble with HumanWare is 
> that not all the technicians have taken the trouble to learn the 
> rudiments of Braille, but then my Apex has served me well for the past 
> seven years and I wouldn't be without it, despite its imperfections 
> and inadequacies.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Jim.
>
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