[BCAB] My new ElBraille

Jackie Brown jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 30 16:46:17 BST 2017


And given the number of edits in that tutorial, I would say the Touch fell
over a number of times!

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Leake
via Bcab
Sent: 30 July 2017 16:33
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Cc: Paul Leake <paul.leake at ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] My new ElBraille

They should provide a tutorial as well on say an SD card as was the case
with the Touch!

Kind regards,

Paul

paul.leake at ntlworld.com


Twitter: @paulleake1

> On 30 Jul 2017, at 09:31, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to say that the ElBraille manual isn't great anyway if I am 
> being honest.  It ought to come as standard with this device given it 
> is targeted at Braille users.  But not everyone wants a bulky Braille 
> manual, so the documentation should be shipped on a CD in various 
> formats such as DOCX, TXT, HTML and BRF.  I remember long ago having 
> this argument with a company about it, and them wanting to charge on 
> top of the device for a Braille copy to be produced and sent out.  In 
> the end, I think they stated that if you request a Braille manual at 
> the time of ordering, it would be free, but not after 30 days of that
order.  I don't know what the policy is now.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Email: Jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tony 
> Fox
> Sent: 29 July 2017 18:51
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] My new ElBraille
> 
> Hi Jackie
> 
> I agree you should have Braille manuals for Braille products.  It 
> seems the days are gone when you got hard copy braille manual with a
Braille product.
> This was always the case with manufacturers who listened to what their 
> users wanted.
> 
> Tony
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> 
> Tony Fox
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> 
>> On 29 July 2017 at 08:19, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Adrian
>> 
>> Yes it bugs me too.  The documentation for ElBraille itself is 
>> downloadable from their website, but hardly the point when you take 
>> the unit out of its box and need to know what the buttons do, and 
>> most important of all, how to turn it on! I personally like having a 
>> separate manual so I can get to grips with the piece of kit without 
>> trying to work out where its help system is built into the device.
>> It's very poor and inconsiderate!
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Jackie Brown
>> Email: Jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
>> Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Follow me on Twitter: 
>> @thebrownsplace Skype name: thejackmate
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
>> Adrian Picton via Bcab
>> Sent: 28 July 2017 23:56
>> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
>> Cc: Adrian Picton <adrian.picton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] My new ElBraill
>> 
>> Isn't that so typical of many technology products for visually 
>> impaired people? They develop a product which is accessible out of 
>> the box and then ruin the whole experience by failing to provide 
>> adequate documentation, let alone in an accessible format. All too 
>> often you have to operate the device to access the manual or a help
system.
>> 
>> Adrian.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Jul 2017, at 23:28, Georgina Joyce <gena at gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I received mine yesterday. The Focus 14 had some print and braille
>> documentation but the El Braille did not.
>>> 
>>> I have forwarded you a message that has html copy of the quick start
>> guide
>> that another list subscriber had provided me.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Jul 2017, at 21:23, Elspeth Pearce via Bcab
>> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I received the above today minus a starter guide or any kind of
>> documentation.  I did not find any online documenttion.  Should there 
>> have instructions in the box? If not. Where can i get them?
>>>> 
>>>> Elspeth pearceSent from my iPhone
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