[BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Mon Oct 30 22:08:46 GMT 2017


Hi,

So you didn't read my message?  I said I tried it and it appeared
inaccessible.  How did you get it to work?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of john
gallagher
Sent: 30 October 2017 18:17
To: bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

steve i would try revo un installer it's very good indeed for getting rid of
stuff.

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt  <steve at comproom.co.uk>
To: "'Bcab Discussion List'"  <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Date: Monday, 30 October 2017 5.19 pm
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

>
>
> Hi,
> 
> No, I can't update to creators yet.
> 
> I get a message on both my machines that some programs couldn't be 
> uninstalled.  They say they are Window-Eyes 9.1 and Window-Eyes 9.3.  
> None of them are on my system, and I have used the Window-Eyes 
> Emergency Removal Utility, to nuke it completely, but no joy so far.
> 
> Anyone know how I can get round this, without resetting the PC?
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Campbell
> Sent: 29 October 2017 11.32
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> 
> Has anyone tried narrator in   the fall creators update yet?.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 29 Oct 2017, at 10.59 am, john gallagher 
> <john at pianotuner.plus.com<mailto:john at pianotuner.plus.com>> wrote:
> 
> yes it is a difficult one all this. i am trying to activate my new 
> jaws and i also use jaws and nvda because if one can do it it's best 
> to have the best and the most options. i wonder if anyone has put the 
> new jaws 2018 on the elBraille yet. i do find this demmo of the new 
> jaws very sluggish on the web though and let's face it i'm using this 
> dell xpas 13 with 16 gb of ram it's a brand new machine really but it 
> is as if something is slowing the machine down i must try it against 
> nvda which seems much better to me on the web which ever browser i 
> use. if only i knew how to take some stuff out of windows that i do not
use it would be a real help.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jackie Brown
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> To: "'Bcab Discussion List'"
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Date: Sunday, 29 October 2017 10.51 am
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Dennis
> 
> This is the old chestnut that pops up regularly.  I think it depends 
> what you want to do, which is why I have both screenreaders and all 
> the browsers on my systems.  I am used to JAWS so use it most of the time
with Office.
> But there are times when NVDA comes into its own.  And I still think 
> JAWS has it over NVDA for Braille.
> 
> As regards value for money, I think JAWS 2018 seems to be offering a 
> few useful features this time, but the last few versions have frankly 
> been pretty lacking.  At the end of the day, if I consider how much 
> time I spend on the computer, and how much of that time is devoted to 
> getting things done using JAWS, I can't really complain in one sense about
paying for upgrades.
> You always have some sort of support mechanism for JAWS as well which 
> I don't think is quite as good with NVDA.  I am not an FS fan, I don't 
> particularly like their ethos, but I've stuck with JAWS for a long 
> time now despite its quirks.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of dennis 
> huckle
> Sent: 29 October 2017 10.22
> To: 'Bcab Discussion List'
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> 
> That tells me david that, now I am considering buying the eloquence 
> voice for nvda I might abandon jaws, not worth the "150 I would have 
> to spend on upgrading to 2018.
> As I mentioned the command prompt which I use a lot works well in nvda 
> but not jaws.
> Kind regards,
> Dennis huckle.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of David 
> Griffith
> Sent: 29 October 2017 10.16
> To: BCAB <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Subject: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> 
> I finally got around to trying out Edge last night as the Browser 
> situation with the upcoming problems in Firefox  made me want another 
> option beyond Chromme and Firefox ESR.
> In short I was very disappointed with the performance with Jaws  2018 
> even with Edge support turned on but very pleased and encouraged with 
> the performance with NVDA.
> There has  obviously been some fantastic work done by the NVDA developers.
> I have visited and read various BBC web pages  last night but have 
> also just completed my Sainsburys Grocery Shop using Edge and NVDA 
> this morning. So this is a limited test but still encouraging for me.
> In terms of responsiveness I thought it was very good. I personally 
> found Edge and NVDA no different to Firefox and possibly the same as 
> Chrome with one exception. At one stage the page simply stopped 
> talking but I pressed control alt and N to restart NVDA, which happens 
> very quickly  on my system and the Edge browser started talking again
immediately.
> All the standard Screenreader commands appear to work fine.
> To access and set favourites and so on you can do it the long way by 
> simply pressing F6 to navigate between the web page,. The address bar 
> and the toolbar. Once in the toolbar pressing on a button seems to 
> reveal most settings you need. I was able to set a favourite  list 
> with no issue. But most of the time you do not need to use it. 
> Pressing control I will bring up favourites for example and on my  
> system this works like lightning.  Other keystokes familiar to users 
> of IE Firefox and Chrome also generally  seem to work. Control  D for add
favourits and so on.
> There is however one feature in the toolbar which may be of interest. 
> If you press F6 to go to the toolbar and tab to more settings there is 
> an option to load the page in Internet Explorer which may be useful 
> for accessing functions like saving a web page or sending the web page 
> as a shortcut to the desktop, options I did not initially find in Edge 
> itself. There are options, like on phones, to ""share" a web page 
> using Mail which may also be
> useful...1 I also found Edge to work pretty easily with Narrrator, at 
> one stage whilst Jaws was struggling I turned Narator on and it 
> happily started reading the web page even whilst Jaws was running but 
> silent and struggling to grasp the web page content.
> Much more higher quality work needed to be done by FS I think.
> David Griffith
> 
> 
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