[BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Tue Oct 31 12:44:38 GMT 2017


Hi,

Oh yeah, it's easy if the program is listed in control panel, we can all do
that one. <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 31 October 2017 12:42
To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

I don't generally use hunter mode but I suppose you would need to if a
program is partly uninstalled.

Regards

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 31 October 2017 12:29
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

Hi Graham,

It doesn't work.  For example, if you go into Hunter mode, you then get a
dialogue that JAWS simply won't read.  Neither will NVDA by the way.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 31 October 2017 12:09
To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

You should be able to do a left mouse click with jaws using slash on number
pad or  caps lock 8 on a laptop.  If you left click on a file name then this
will bring a list view of programs into focus and you can arrow up and down
this list and use right mouse click to bring up contect menu.

Regards

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 October 2017 17:20
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

Hi John,

I found Revo inaccessible when I tried it.  What's the secret?  When I
loaded it, I got an edit box and nothing more.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of john
gallagher
Sent: 29 October 2017 12:14
To: bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

thanks yes i also got rid of the dell stuff that i do not need. i will go
through the disc clean up again though i also have the very good revo un
installer as well. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Brown  <jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com>
To: "'Bcab Discussion List'"  <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Date: Sunday, 29 October 2017 11.05 am
Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge

>
>
> Hi John
> 
> I have installed JAWS 2018 on ElBraille and it seems to be ok.
> 
> Go into Programs and Features and see what applications you have 
> installed on your Dell for a start.  I took all the Dell stuff off 
> mine apart from of course the actual graphics drivers etc.  After 
> you've done that, go to Disk CleanUp and see what rubbish you can get 
> rid
of in there.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Email: ,j;ackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Follow me on Twitter: 
> @thebrownsplace Skype name: thejackmate
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of john 
> gallagher
> Sent: 29 October 2017 10.58
> To: bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> 
> yes it is a difficult one all this. i am trying to activate my new 
> jaws and i also use jaws and nvda because if one can do it it's best 
> to have the best and the most options. i wonder if anyone has put the 
> new jaws 2018 on the elBraille yet. i do find this demmo of the new 
> jaws very sluggish on the web though and let's face it i'm using this 
> dell xpas 13 with 16 gb of ram it's a brand new machine really but it 
> is as if something is slowing the machine down i must try it against 
> nvda which seems much better to me on the web which ever browser i 
> use. if only i knew how to take some stuff out of windows that i do 
> not
use it would be a real help.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jackie Brown  <jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Bcab Discussion List'"  <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Date: Sunday, 29 October 2017 10.51 am
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Dennis
> > 
> > This is the old chestnut that pops up regularly.  I think it depends 
> > what
> you want to do, which is why I have both screenreaders and all the 
> browsers on my systems.  I am used to JAWS so use it most of the time 
> with
Office.
> But there are times when NVDA comes into its own.  And I still think 
> JAWS has it over NVDA for Braille.
> > 
> > As regards value for money, I think JAWS 2018 seems to be offering a 
> > few
> useful features this time, but the last few versions have frankly been 
> pretty lacking.  At the end of the day, if I consider how much time I 
> spend on the computer, and how much of that time is devoted to getting 
> things done using JAWS, I can't really complain in one sense about 
> paying
for upgrades.
> You always have some sort of support mechanism for JAWS as well which 
> I don't think is quite as good with NVDA.  I am not an FS fan, I don't 
> particularly like their ethos, but I've stuck with JAWS for a long 
> time now despite its quirks.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Jackie Brown
> > Email: ,j;ackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> > Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Follow me on Twitter: 
> > @thebrownsplace Skype name: thejackmate
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> > dennis huckle
> > Sent: 29 October 2017 10.22
> > To: 'Bcab Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> > 
> > That tells me david that, now I am considering buying the eloquence 
> > voice
> for nvda I might abandon jaws, not worth the #150 I would have to 
> spend on upgrading to 2018.
> > As I mentioned the command prompt which I use a lot works well in 
> > nvda but
> not jaws.
> > Kind regards,
> > Dennis huckle.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces at lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of 
> > David Griffith
> > Sent: 29 October 2017 10.16
> > To: BCAB <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> > Subject: [BCAB] First Impressions on Edge
> > 
> > I finally got around to trying out Edge last night as the Browser
> situation  with the upcoming problems in Firefox  made me want another 
> option beyond Chromme and Firefox ESR.
> > In short I was very disappointed with the performance with Jaws
> > 2018 even
> with Edge support turned on but very pleased and encouraged with the 
> performance with NVDA.
> > There has  obviously been some fantastic work done by the NVDA
developers.
> > I have visited and read various BBC web pages  last night but have 
> > also
> just completed my Sainsburys Grocery Shop using Edge and NVDA this
morning.
> So this is a limited test but still encouraging for me.
> > In terms of responsiveness I thought it was very good. I personally 
> > found
> Edge and NVDA no different to Firefox and possibly the same as Chrome 
> with one exception. At one stage the page simply stopped talking but I 
> pressed control alt and N to restart NVDA, which happens very quickly 
> on my system and the Edge browser started talking again immediately.
> > All the standard Screenreader commands appear to work fine.
> > To access and set favourites and so on you can do it the long way by
> simply pressing F6 to navigate between the web page,. The address bar 
> and the toolbar. Once in the toolbar pressing on a button seems to 
> reveal most settings you need. I was able to set a favourite  list 
> with no issue. But most of the time you do not need to use it.
> Pressing control I will bring up favourites for example and on my 
> system this works like lightning.  Other keystokes familiar to users 
> of IE Firefox and Chrome also generally  seem to work. Control  D for 
> add
favourits and so on.
> > There is however one feature in the toolbar which may be of 
> > interest. If
> you press F6 to go to the toolbar and tab to more settings there is an 
> option to load the page in Internet Explorer which may be useful for 
> accessing functions like saving a web page or sending the web page as 
> a shortcut to the desktop, options I did not initially find in Edge
itself.
> There are options, like on phones, to ""share" a web page using Mail 
> which may also be useful...1 I also found Edge to work pretty easily 
> with Narrrator, at one stage whilst Jaws was struggling I turned 
> Narator on and it happily started reading the web page even whilst 
> Jaws was running but silent and struggling to grasp the web page content.
> > Much more higher quality work needed to be done by FS I think.
> > David Griffith
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
> > http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
> > My Blind hammer Blog
> > https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
> > 
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