[BCAB] high res audio

Steve Nutt steve at comproom.co.uk
Wed Oct 2 11:34:00 BST 2019


Hi Andrew,

Also Atmos adds processing to the sound, which is not the way the engineer who recorded it intended, I would imagine.  Anyway, all iterations of Atmos I have heard have been nothing short of horrible.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew at hodgson.io> 
Sent: 02 October 2019 10:43
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] high res audio

Hi,

Yeah I'm really not sure where Amazon are going with this speaker to be honest as its being targeted as a soundbar type system but you wouldn't really want to play music with it as at the end of the day you aren't going to get good stereo separation.  My parents recently got an LG soundbar with Atmos and again its a bit weird since you have a single device trying to chuck sound out everywhere and all I seem to get from it is targeted noise from the same general direction.

Andrew.
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From: Steve Nutt [steve at comproom.co.uk]
Sent: 02 October 2019 10:29
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] high res audio

Hi,

Dolby Atmos is an assault on my ears and an insult to Hi-Fi purists to be honest.

I won't go near it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <igucukoglu at hotmail.com>
Sent: 02 October 2019 09:36
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] high res audio

Hi everyone
Continuing discussion of high resolution audio, just in case everyone hasn’t heard, Amazon are releasing a new  speaker on the 7th of November called Eco studio. The speakable retail for £189.99 and promises Dolby Atmos audio as well as 3-D sound if you subscribe to Amazon Music HD. I’m going to buy this in the Black Friday/cyber Monday sales but I would be really interested to hear anyone’s views if they decide to buy it beforehand as I am going to upgrade to HD but need the motivation to do it. Thanks.

> On 2 Oct 2019, at 09:32, Steve Nutt <steve at comproom.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Vic,
>
> Try Tidal, it's even better.  Qobuz is even better still.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic Pereira <vic.pereira at virn.ca>
> Sent: 20 September 2019 14:26
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] high res audio
>
> I do not know how widely available it is, but I am impressed with the sound quality of Deezer. As of now, I am only using the free service. This does not allow me to connect via Google Home. I can stream it through the app on my iPhone though.
> Vic
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 20, 2019, at 07:03, Steve Nutt <steve at comproom.co.uk> wrote:
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> Looks like he's paid to say Spotify is the best.
>
> What he actually means is out of that lot, Tidal is the best.  This is because Tidal lets you stream in low or high res.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> Sent: 18 September 2019 17:19
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> Subject: Re: [BCAB] high res audio
>
> Steve
> It isn’t necessarily about the number of songs you have in your catalogue, nor the quality of those songs in terms of bit rate. It’s how that service allows you to access find and connect with the music you love and discover new songs. Look at this article from business insider which ranks of Spotify as the best overall music service of 2019.
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> On 18 Sep 2019, at 18:53, Steve Nutt <steve at comproom.co.uk<mailto:steve at comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
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> Ibrahim, you are spitting out the old marketing hype, Spotify is the number one in the world.  I would disagree now, if even Amazon are getting in on the high res gain, I think more people care about good quality audio than ever before.
>
> Spotify has approx. 40 million tracks, Google Play has 45 million, as does Qobuz and Tidal.  Go figure.  That doesn't sound like the number one anything to me.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> <igucukoglu at hotmail.com<mailto:igucukoglu at hotmail.com>>
> Sent: 18 September 2019 16:43
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>
> Hi
> It sounds like an interesting streaming service, and to be honest I have been putting off high definition as an option for awhile even though I think I could benefit from it however I need to make sure that Amazon can come up with a compelling speaker option to make high definition  affordable. The fact is, average Joe doesn’t really care about audio quality so long as it is good enough, which is probably why there are so few high definition of streaming services on the market and Spotify is the number one streaming service in the world despite not offering a high-definition option. As for downloading content, from what I understand Amazon is not going to be selling high-definition content through the Amazon Music store, you will only be able to access high-definition content through Amazon Music Subscriptions.
>
> On 18 Sep 2019, at 18:29, Andrew Hodgson <andrew at hodgson.io<mailto:andrew at hodgson.io>> wrote:
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> Hi John,
>
> If you subscribe to the service and set it up as default, it will play the highest version available when you ask Alexa to play in the specific room, or set Alexa to play through the Sonos by default by putting it in the same room in the Alexa app and setting the default output.
>
> I have had a go with it and it certainly is impressive, though as Steve says it only plays CD quality on the Sonos side.  You seem to be able to download the files with the Amazon iOS app, though I need to work out whether they can send me hi-res files, the thing here is the files need to be protected somehow as I haven't purchased the tracks as such.
>
> At this point I am looking seriously about getting a smaller phone contract without Spotify and using Amazon music instead, Spotify now has one of the poorer quality streaming quality options.
>
> Andrew.
>
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> Sent: 18 September 2019 16:16
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> hi steve
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> thanks for that it seems to say the new sonos move will stream high rles but i must have a read again about it i think if you subscribe you get three months trial and seems to read that you can download tracks but of course they are much larger files as you will know. by heck it's a complicated subject bluesound must be one of the best setups for high res music though.
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