[BCAB] Whether it is Accessible or Useable that is the Question

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Thu Oct 10 11:16:11 BST 2019


Hi Steve,
I couldn't agree more with this statement.
Adrian Tamasan

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Green <steve.green at testpartners.co.uk> 
Sent: 10 October 2019 00:27
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Whether it is Accessible or Useable that is the Question

Actually, those automated accessibility checkers are virtually useless. Even the most insanely expensive ones only find about 20% of the issues, and they report a load of false positives that waste the developer's time. Some tools guarantee not to report false positives, but the trade off is that they report even fewer genuine faults.

For the foreseeable future, manual testing will be the only way to do anything more than a cursory level of testing, but it is slow and expensive. And don't listen to anyone who says that artificial intelligence will magically solve this problem because it won't, at least not during the lifetime of any of us.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd



-----Original Message-----
From: George Bell <george at techno-vision.co.uk> 
Sent: 09 October 2019 21:35
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Whether it is Accessible or Useable that is the Question

Very good points, Vic.

Certainly it is an issue that screen reader commands do have to be learned, but in many cases, even regular web browser keyboard commands do not work.

It's not exactly rocket science these days for a developer to run an accessibility checker against their whole web site or just a page.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Pereira <vic.pereira at virn.ca>
Sent: 09 October 2019 21:27
To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: [BCAB] Whether it is Accessible or Useable that is the Question

Good day everyone

Determining whether or not a website is accessible or useable has always been a difficult question for me. Several years ago I helped a bit with the WCAG effort. At times it was obvious when a website wasn't accessible to a person who had low vision or no vision, especially when adaptive or assistive technologies needed to be used.

I also came across several examples of websites that were more difficult, however with some investment in learning the basic text to speech software navigation functions the experience became much more positive.

When a website uses embedded headings, tables, actual controls etc. it can work very nicely if a person is comfortable using the text to speech software functions to move between elements and navigate tables.

Now if a person wasn't able to invest the time in learning the adaptive or assistive technology and issues complaints about websites not being useable I have no idea where to put the blame. This is outside of having a learning or cognitive disability of course.

Vic


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