[BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behavior

Jackie Brown jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 11 11:35:33 BST 2019


Thanks Barry, glad to know I'm not going completely round the twist then!
(smile.)

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Email: jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Toner <barry at tonermail.co.uk> 
Sent: 11 October 2019 11:31
To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behavior

Hi Jackie,

The mail thing I have seen this week, but not when I first upgraded.  I
fixed it by removing the mail account on my IOS device, rebooting the device
to clear any cached memory and putting the account back in.  HTH Barry.

> On 11 Oct 2019, at 10:50, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adrian
> 
> I have seen Emails that I've read on my PC in Outlook not being deleted
when I go into Mail on my iPhone 8 on occasions.  Sometimes the Emails
disappear when I open the app, other times I need to manually delete them,
even though I've read them elsewhere and have the box ticked to remove them
from server.  This has only started since iOS 13, another reason why I don't
like it much.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Email: jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Accessible Computer <accessiblecomputer at outlook.com>
> Sent: 11 October 2019 10:42
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behavior
> 
> Hi,
> I have an iPhone X and problems with dictation I have had like you with
English and Romanian language.
> Also, Voiceover freeze almost after third call  closed. 
> I have deactivated haptic feedback from Voiceover menu but still have
issues to find easy the top bar. 
> I am just calling today Apple Accessibility support to see what is to do
at list with the second problem with freezing VO  when I hang up a call. 
> Also, I have noticed e-mails displayed ambiguous, like mixed together
between mail accounts which also is strange. 
> I have multiple accounts of e-mail set  in iPhone  and sometimes I have
seen e-mails from an account displayed in a folder of other account. I was
few times just double checking the folder to be sure  I am at the right
email account and this is a fact, sometimes emails are mixed together and
displayed wrong.
> 
> Adrian Tamasan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Madleen Mann <Madleen.Mann at rnib.org.uk>
> Sent: 11 October 2019 09:18
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behaviour
> 
> I have a question to you all! Did anyone notice the following:
> With the new Iphone 11 pro but I noticed this also on the  x and xs,  and
13.02!
> On the keyboard behaviour
> I have an English and a German keyboard installed.
> 
> When I use dictation *in English* it constantly  mixes up both languages,
only if I then once change it to German and back to English will it
*sometimes* work!
> 
> It drives me crazy!
> 
> It is a problem with speech recognition either with the software or a
server problem!
> Does anyone note this and have you any suggestions what I can do to try
and reduce this?
> Best regards,
> *               Madleen Mann,
> *               Technology For Life Co-Ordinator
> *               RNIB Customer Service and Support
> *               Direct Line: 0207 391 2308
> *               Mobile:      07783172099
> *               Helpline:    03031239999
> *               Email:
madleen.mann at rnib.org.uk<mailto:madleen.mann at rnib.org.uk>
> *
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> 
> From: Steve Nutt <steve at comproom.co.uk>
> Sent: 11 October 2019 08:22
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behaviour
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There is still this problem for some, where audio completely disappears
including VoiceOver, when a call comes in.
> 
> I would still wait to be honest.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew at hodgson.io<mailto:andrew at hodgson.io>>
> Sent: 09 October 2019 16:23
> To: BCAB Discussion List 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behaviour
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That's a bit of an open ended question since we don't know what you used
to be able to do before. I believe the current version is stable. I turned
off the haptics in VoiceOver and also the slide keyboard as I have no idea
how it is supposed to work, but other than that its business as usual for
me.
> 
> I haven't done anything with Braille right now so can't comment on that.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Godfrey-McKay via Bcab 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Sent: 09 October 2019 16:14
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Cc: 
> lists.godfrey-mckay at virginmedia.com<mailto:lists.godfrey-mckay at virginm
> edia.com>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behaviour
> 
> Jackie, Haven't upgraded yet.
> 
> What's the current thinking on the upgrade please?
> 
> Are there any things I used to be able to do which I wouldn't now be able
to do?
> 
> Thanks for any opinion,
> 
> All the best,
> Richard
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jackie Brown [mailto:jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com]
> Sent: 09 October 2019 13:12
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behaviour
> 
> Hi Tim
> 
> You need to go into Accessibility, VoiceOver, and along to Typing. Here,
you can choose whether you want the slide keyboard which I think is the
default when you upgrade to iOS 13, or Touch Typing etc. I must say that
there are one or two things I don't like with this upgrade but that's just
my view.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Email: jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com<mailto:jackieannbrown62 at gmail.com>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tim.pennick--- via Bcab 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Sent: 09 October 2019 12:41
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List' 
> <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk<mailto:bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>>
> Cc: tim.pennick at btinternet.com<mailto:tim.pennick at btinternet.com>
> Subject: [BCAB] Horrible new iPhone keyboard behaviour
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I was attempting to create a new contact for the first time since the
upgrade to iOS 13. I discovered while trying to fill in the first and last
names field, that the behaviour of the keyboard has changed. As I moved my
finger on the screen to locate the desired letter, VoiceOver started
offering me words rather than letters. Lifting my finger from the H key,
inserted the word Hungry rather than the single letter H.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a feeling I read something about a new style of predictive word
completion, but I don't remember where, or what were the details. If
anyone's already got this sorted out I'd be very grateful to know how they
did it, otherwise, if I find out, I'll pass it on to the list, as it makes
life much more difficult when attempting to enter text.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards to all,
> 
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
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