[BCAB] Accessible TV Guide

Andrew Hodgson andrew at hodgson.io
Thu Oct 17 10:17:42 BST 2019


Hi,

I wouldn't use this channel at all, I can get this information from a website or other publications.  I would only use it if I could tell the PVR to record from the guide directly which is highly unlikely to happen.

Andrew.
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From: Yusuf Osman [yusuf.osman at yusufosman.org.uk]
Sent: 17 October 2019 10:11
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Subject: Re: [BCAB] Accessible TV Guide

My problem Phil is that I don't understand how this will work. If I turn to this channel, whatever it turns out to be, how will I be able to find out what is on ITV on Friday at 19:30. Will I simply have to listen to all information until it reaches ITV Friday 19:30?
Yusuf


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Sent: 17 October 2019 09:36
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Subject: [BCAB] Accessible TV Guide


John

Thanks for letting us know about this consultation.  My thoughts on this proposal, as far as I understand it, and  for what they are worth:

-  The provision of an accessible Freeview and Freeview Play EPG using a dedicated Freeview Channel has the advantage that the high contrast text and rendering of text into speech is provided as part of the EPG service, from the server as it were.  So high contrast text and speech should be available to all users of Freeview irrespective of whether they are using a TV or set top box that has accessibility built in.

-  This does not preclude manufacturers from also building access features into their Freeview TV and set top boxes such as speech and text enhancement.  It may of course act as a disincentive for them to do so if the EPG is accessible to blind users on all Freeview receivers, but then there are lots of other reasons why blind users need these access features on equipment, for instance to use settings menus.

-  Freeview Play brings together all the main on demand and catch up services such as BBC iPlayer, and those from ITV, Channel 4 and others.  I wonder whether this proposal would provide a way of us accessing catch up and on demand content from Freeview Play via the Freeview accessible TV guide, if for example, having navigated to content in the EPG listing, it is
possible to play it directly from there.   This would presumably avoid the
need to use an app?  Whether this is possible may depend on whether there is an accessible and useable interface as part of the accessible Freeview EPG that enables users to search for and filter content.  It is hard to imagine what that could look like or quite how it would work without being clunky.

-  Although the consultation document states that users will be able to customise the accessible Freeview TV guide to their own access needs, I doubt it will allow as much user customisation as we have been used to with dedicated equipment such as the TVonics set top box or the more recent range of talking TVs from Samsung, LG etc.  For instance, I doubt it will be possible to adjust the speech rate given that the speech is to be delivered from the EPG server and not generated on the user's own equipment.  This could be very frustrating.

It is worth noting that the consultation question is not on the merits of the proposal itself, but only on which channel (LCN) it should be made available on, either 555, 258 or another.  In other words they are consulting not on the EPG itself but on the allocation of channel resources.

I wonder what others think, particularly those who watch TV and catchup more than I do.

Phil



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From: RNIB [mailto:media.and.culture.rnib at gmail.com]
Sent: 10 October 2019 16:08
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: [BCAB] Accessible TV Guide

Hi there,

Digital UK has today published a consultation on an Accessible TV Guide that will work across all Freeview Play TVs by acting as a channel.

The consultation document is available at https://tinyurl.com/DigiUKConDoc It's a pdf and although I haven't tried the accessibility I'm about to be out of contact for a bit and want to make sure people get the chance to respond.

Thanks,

John
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