[BCAB] message and contact searching with ios version 13.1.2

Phil Smalley phil.smalley at whitecane.plus.com
Tue Oct 22 09:10:21 BST 2019


Morning,

A cold restart seems to have helped hugely.  Haven't tested thoroughly yet,
but looking usable again.
Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smalley [mailto:phil.smalley at whitecane.plus.com] 
Sent: 21 October 2019 21:44
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] message and contact searching with ios version 13.1.2

Hi,

I tend to place my fignger on the screen in the upper region once I've
finished typing.  Now, I just hear the sound for invalid zone/area, plus
"double tap to close window".  If I double tap, then I'm returned to the
previous screen to enter search criteria.

I've moved  finger around the screen and all there is to voice over is the
keyboard at the bottom, lots of null space in the centre, and the search
field towards the top right.

I've turned slide to type off under General. Keyboard.  This seems to have
made no difference whatsoever.

One other observation:

I move finger round the keyboard to find letter required.  The letter is
announced.  Previously, releasing finger had the letter announced again as
it was put in the input field.  This latter step isn't happening.

I want to use my iphone XR in a similar way as a sighted person.  I don't
want to spend bloody hours messing about after an update trying to get the
very basics working again.  If sighted people had this misfortune, well, it
wouldn't happen for commercial reasons.

If I use my blue tooth keyboard, things are slightly better.  Matching names
do seem to be available, but only the first telephone number if there are
more than one!!!  Not really helpful when landline is usually first number
if you want to text!!!

Help appreciated

Phil





-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Robinson [mailto:ian228 at hotmail.co.uk] 
Sent: 21 October 2019 19:20
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: Re: [BCAB] message and contact searching with ios version 13.1.2

Hi Phil,

After performing the search, are you exploring the screen by flicking or
sliding your finger around?
The reason I ask is that, since upgrading to iOS 13, I'm having several
situations where VoiceOver behaves as if there is almost nothing on screen.
Flicking to the right just gives the sound when you flick right after the
last item on screen.  If I then put my finger near the top of the phone,
about half way across, and slide my finger down the screen, the info I
expect to find is there after all.

After that, I can flick left and right as normal.

Hope that helps.

Ian


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smalley <phil.smalley at whitecane.plus.com> 
Sent: 21 October 2019 16:00
To: 'BCAB Discussion List' <bcab at lists.bcab.org.uk>
Subject: [BCAB] message and contact searching with ios version 13.1.2

Hi,

Going into either:

Contact, then search.  Or

Messages, compose.

I key part of a contact name, and then explore the screen for the results.
However, in the latest version of ios, all I hear is the dull sound of
invalid area.

I have changed the typing mode to standard because of problems explained on
this list earlier in the month.  What else do I need to do to make my device
usable?

Many thanks to those who have the inclination to solve newly introduced
problems.

Kindest regards

	Phil





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